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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by thatsMR2u
even if 34,900 turns out to be the MR edition MSRP, that isnt that great, considering the real MR sells in japan for about 32,000, they take a way a few cosmetical goodies and give it the degraded name like MR "edition" and charge more, still crossing my fingers for 33,000 msrp
It's a sneaky little marketing scheme... make us wait for the nice car, make us guess the MSRP, make us hold off on buying an STI, and make us not eligible for the free schedule maintenance. These guys are ****ing genius'!

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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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in my opinion... how much more can rims, springs and shocks, and minor cosmetics cost... let's say the ACD is worth a grand and the other **** is worth $2,500...

MSRP of '04 EVO - $30,594

30,594 + 1,000 + 2,500 = $34,094

Am I missing any other additions? How were my estimated quotes on equipment?


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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:33 AM
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seriously, why do alot of people care what MSRP on the MR if they are not getting one? i was gonna get an MR but after hearing too many things on the mitsu's warranty, ive decided not to. even a guy i met at a Creative Labs meeting was even talking about Mitsus warranty and he drives a freaking 5.0. my girl friend was gonna get a 05 gsr but i talked her out of one. there was a guy at her work that drives a red 04 evo and hes having the same problem. my question is why is everyone getting hyped up on the car they are not getting and a car that "doesnt" come with a warranty? i love reading EvoM members with their cars on here even though ive changed my mind about the MR. its always great to see that people are passionate about cars.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by racerxl99
seriously, why do alot of people care what MSRP on the MR if they are not getting one? i was gonna get an MR but after hearing too many things on the mitsu's warranty, ive decided not to. even a guy i met at a Creative Labs meeting was even talking about Mitsus warranty and he drives a freaking 5.0. my girl friend was gonna get a 05 gsr but i talked her out of one. there was a guy at her work that drives a red 04 evo and hes having the same problem. my question is why is everyone getting hyped up on the car they are not getting and a car that "doesnt" come with a warranty? i love reading EvoM members with their cars on here even though ive changed my mind about the MR. its always great to see that people are passionate about cars.

you're fine on the warranty as long as you don't make your car faster than stock.

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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by racerxl99
seriously, why do alot of people care what MSRP on the MR if they are not getting one? i was gonna get an MR but after hearing too many things on the mitsu's warranty, ive decided not to. even a guy i met at a Creative Labs meeting was even talking about Mitsus warranty and he drives a freaking 5.0. my girl friend was gonna get a 05 gsr but i talked her out of one. there was a guy at her work that drives a red 04 evo and hes having the same problem. my question is why is everyone getting hyped up on the car they are not getting and a car that "doesnt" come with a warranty? i love reading EvoM members with their cars on here even though ive changed my mind about the MR. its always great to see that people are passionate about cars.
so is your girlfriend gonna buy one now and not listen to you?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dizzigital
in my opinion... how much more can rims, springs and shocks, and minor cosmetics cost... let's say the ACD is worth a grand and the other **** is worth $2,500...

MSRP of '04 EVO - $30,594

30,594 + 1,000 + 2,500 = $34,094

Am I missing any other additions? How were my estimated quotes on equipment?


-Robert
Just the bilstein shocks alone are 2 grand, a vender on this forum is selling them.....add the rims, vortec generator, ACD, aluminum roof, and a unreplaceable 6speed tranny, and all the power upgrade the 05 is going to have and that is way over 2500$, probably like closer to atleast 5grand. also there is really no comparison to the 04 model. Everyone who bought the 04 model got dicked, same price you could have waited for the 05 and got front lsd, and more horsepower.

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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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Originally Posted by thatsMR2u
even if 34,900 turns out to be the MR edition MSRP, that isnt that great, considering the real MR sells in japan for about 32,000, they take a way a few cosmetical goodies and give it the degraded name like MR "edition" and charge more, still crossing my fingers for 33,000 msrp

What does the GSR go for in Japan? Figure that out and then compare the JDM MR price difference to the JDM GSR. The MR edition we're getting does come with all of the things that seperate it from the GSR in japan. Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong (if you know for sure and can prove it) but in Japan I think they have to pay extra for the BBS wheels, it comes standard with the enkeis. I say this because someone posted a Japanese MR up for auction a while ago that had the enkei wheels, other forum members said the BBS were optional in the JDM.

One other thing we need to put into account is that the GSR and RS probably are going to cost a bit more for 05 as well. Maybe the GSR will be close 32,000 now with the addition of ACD? I'm getting anxious though, we all agree this wait is rediculous.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 07:50 AM
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I hope Mitsubishi hurrys up, I want to drive my 2005 in the 2004
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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What does the GSR go for in Japan? Figure that out and then compare the JDM MR price difference to the JDM GSR.
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every evo sold in japan is an "MR" now. they have the MR GSR, MR RS w/5-spd, and MR RS w/6-spd.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
Just the bilstein shocks alone are 2 grand, a vender on this forum is selling them.....add the rims, vortec generator, ACD, aluminum roof, and a unreplaceable 6speed tranny, and all the power upgrade the 05 is going to have and that is way over 2500$, probably like closer to atleast 5grand. also there is really no comparison to the 04 model. Everyone who bought the 04 model got dicked, same price you could have waited for the 05 and got front lsd, and more horsepower.
First, it's been pointed out that far better Bilstein components can be had for less. Even the vendor (Gruppe-S?) feels that the price is high. Also keep in mind the vendor isn't selling at cost, but at considerable markup to take care of his own overhead and put some cash in the safe. Also keep in mind the "law of large numbers" that comes into play with wholesaling -- they don't cost ANYWHERE near $2000. I wouldnt be surprised if Bilstein sold them to the distributor for around $600-700 for the whole set. $1000 tops.

Additionally, this is going to be a differential of the cost between the Bilsteins and the existing components, not the cost of the bilsteins on top of the existing components.

Vortex Generator is polycarbonate that's painted and some adhesive tape. Badging isn't much.

Wheels? Again. Incremental cost over the Enkei's.

Transmission? Again. Incremental cost.

Etc.

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I expect pricing to fall somewhere between $33,299 and $34,999, though it may be higher.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MisterSpoot
First, it's been pointed out that far better Bilstein components can be had for less. Even the vendor (Gruppe-S?) feels that the price is high. Also keep in mind the vendor isn't selling at cost, but at considerable markup to take care of his own overhead and put some cash in the safe. Also keep in mind the "law of large numbers" that comes into play with wholesaling -- they don't cost ANYWHERE near $2000. I wouldnt be surprised if Bilstein sold them to the distributor for around $600-700 for the whole set. $1000 tops.

Additionally, this is going to be a differential of the cost between the Bilsteins and the existing components, not the cost of the bilsteins on top of the existing components.

Vortex Generator is polycarbonate that's painted and some adhesive tape. Badging isn't much.

Wheels? Again. Incremental cost over the Enkei's.

Transmission? Again. Incremental cost.

Etc.

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I expect pricing to fall somewhere between $33,299 and $34,999, though it may be higher.
My thoughts precisely ...... its incremental, subtract the cost of the 5 speed add the cost of the 6 speed. I don't know why people keep adding costs??? I think most need a lesson in math and business .....
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tanner_Hall
every evo sold in japan is an "MR" now. they have the MR GSR, MR RS w/5-spd, and MR RS w/6-spd.
I see.. I think I knew this actually but got confused because of the USDM situation. A while ago I was going to post and ask if people thought it possible that we won't have any non-MR evos for 05 but I guess thats why ours is MR "Edition" and not just Evo MR.
Do you know what the JDM price was for just the GSR when it was sold there?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by evo8MR
Just the bilstein shocks alone are 2 grand, a vender on this forum is selling them.....add the rims, vortec generator, ACD, aluminum roof, and a unreplaceable 6speed tranny, and all the power upgrade the 05 is going to have and that is way over 2500$, probably like closer to atleast 5grand. also there is really no comparison to the 04 model. Everyone who bought the 04 model got dicked, same price you could have waited for the 05 and got front lsd, and more horsepower.
if the GSR's are the same price as '04, lol, then that means Mitsubishi in Japan ****ed the United States from every angle. there's no other reason why it shouldn't be more.
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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MisterSpoot
First, it's been pointed out that far better Bilstein components can be had for less. Even the vendor (Gruppe-S?) feels that the price is high. Also keep in mind the vendor isn't selling at cost, but at considerable markup to take care of his own overhead and put some cash in the safe. Also keep in mind the "law of large numbers" that comes into play with wholesaling -- they don't cost ANYWHERE near $2000. I wouldnt be surprised if Bilstein sold them to the distributor for around $600-700 for the whole set. $1000 tops.

Additionally, this is going to be a differential of the cost between the Bilsteins and the existing components, not the cost of the bilsteins on top of the existing components.

Vortex Generator is polycarbonate that's painted and some adhesive tape. Badging isn't much.

Wheels? Again. Incremental cost over the Enkei's.

Transmission? Again. Incremental cost.

Etc.

I expect pricing to fall somewhere between $33,299 and $34,999, though it may be higher.
What you are saying obviously makes perfect sense, but im looking at it from a modifying point of view, if you were to get upgraded shocks then whats the value of your stock ones, you are still going to pay what the aftermarket shocks are worth, not less cause you have the stock gsr ones. As far as things like the tranny and the aluminum roof, those are things you can not buy and install, unless of course you are going to spend an arm and a leg, but those are exclusive so yeah cost value may be incremental but as a buyer its worth more to me than a few hundred bucks over the gsr one because i know that it cant just be bought aftermarket. And for the wheels enkei vs bbs, ive looked up bbs wheels and they are pretty damn expensive and not many cars in the world come with them stock so they are nice wheels for those who are not upgrading.........i see what everyones saying for the Mr cost to gsr cost on parts, im not an idiot and im attending a business program at college and math is my best subject, but in my opinion its still worth it to me to get the MR.

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Old Sep 21, 2004 | 08:57 AM
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And for the wheels enkei vs bbs, ive looked up bbs wheels and they are pretty damn expensive and not many cars in the world come with them stock so they are nice wheels for those who are not upgrading
Keep in mind, the TDR's on the big bad FQ-400 can be bought for less than $200 per wheel. I agree, the cost of all these parts may be $2000, but the marginal benifit isn't close to that.
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