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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bahamut
I kinda knew that. But people getting engine swap from other place like ebay or other non local sites, won't have a VIN # or simply forgotten to write it down. I'm talking about these kind of people.

Also, isn't there some sort of security fail safe check that the dealership go through before making a key off a VIN #?

Ex: joe smoe thief sees an awesome 3g eclipse GT on a college parking lot. Read VIN off the dash . . . jogs to the neighborhood Mitsu dealership . . . ask for a new replacement key. There is a liability issue.
I was/am sponsored by a Mitsu dealership and can get ALOTA s**t...
but for people that spend WAAAAAAAY too much money SHIPPING their motors from some other place...well, honestly...thats your bad. cuz i am sure thatthere are PLENTY of junkyards in your home area. Dont be affraid (not saying you in particular) to get your hands dirty. But if that IS the ONLY way to get your immobilizer, then where ever you get the immobilizer SHOULD have the VIN. Also, you can ask a mitsu dealership to help you as far as that goes. once a car is in the salvage yard, the DMV knows and so would the dealership. So giving them a VIN from a car that is in the junk yard, they would know that its dead and no longer on the road and hence, can not be stolen.

Originally Posted by BigP436
what is involved with the custom motor mount? is it somethin you have to do to the original 4g94 mount, or the 4g64 mount? or a custom mount all together?
its a custom mount that supprts the motor mount on the G64.

Originally Posted by EvoDimension
Do you have any idea how much it will cost to convert from auto to manual and upgrade to 4g64?
it wouldnt cost any extra. ur swapping out the motor AND tranny, so while you're at it you should convert to manual...IMHO

Originally Posted by carlos_r2b
For this set up you would still use the Lancer LSD?
no. the lancer LSD would be too small (just barely tho).
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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what the....the engine was only 450?!?!?! holy ****tt..
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoDimension
Do you have any idea how much it will cost to convert from auto to manual and upgrade to 4g64?
not sure about the whole thing but a shop here did the swap in my friend's 02 OZ for 2700(parts/labor/etc...)
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 11:25 PM
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Is there any LSD that will work with the lancer tranny guts in the eclipse bell housing?
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by carlos_r2b
Is there any LSD that will work with the lancer tranny guts in the eclipse bell housing?
wait...
come to think of it...
it should work!
cuz when u swap out all of the lancer's tranny internals into the G64's tranny bell housing..then you STILL have a lancer's gears and thus can still use the LSD...

my bad...
I didnt have the LSD in mine...over looked that
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 07:38 AM
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What are your thoughts on the DOHC swap as all motor? A waste? or some potential?
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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Under 3k.. hmmm

Originally Posted by ThunderOZRacer
not sure about the whole thing but a shop here did the swap in my friend's 02 OZ for 2700(parts/labor/etc...)
So how long ago was this... sounds very appealing to me.
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 09:14 AM
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My opinion of the DOHC head swap is the gains won't be that great. Most of the available cam profiles aren't designed for Normally aspirated applications. HOWEVER, if your doing the swap, then putting the Evo head on it, with the expectation that you'd eventually install the rest of the turbo components is a fantastic Idea.

The stock Evo engine normally aspirated only produces around 160hp.. But you do get the DOHC, Better intake manifold, etc..
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bsc7080emn
So how long ago was this... sounds very appealing to me.
A few months ago...
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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just found this thread and im srry for the loss,

makes me wanna pull out my steering wheel for one thats removable so no one steels my yellow oz and im 1 block from the sdsu. i h8 college students
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by OZR_Lancer
just found this thread and im srry for the loss,

makes me wanna pull out my steering wheel for one thats removable so no one steels my yellow oz and im 1 block from the sdsu. i h8 college students
install fuel cut, ignition cut, blah blah blah cut switches... especially if you invest money like rpm did
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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ok i just have a question..........might be dumb.....is this engine already turboed?????
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DickMorgan
ok i just have a question..........might be dumb.....is this engine already turboed?????
no.. on the 1st post ... you will see the cars that have this motor... those are NOT turbo cars
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DickMorgan
ok i just have a question..........might be dumb.....is this engine already turboed?????
no, but the door is DEFINATELY open for a snail...so many different variations to choose from on this engine...
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 02:26 AM
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yeaps, there are... you have a few options with the 4g64 motor, the 1st, 2nd gen exhaust manifolds bolt right up to it and the evo viii and ix manifolds bolt right up to it. i'm not sure if you guys are gonna have clearance issues with it though? i have a 3rd gen, not a lancer so i wouldn't know on your car.

forgot if you swapped your ecu or not? but if you do, swap your lancer ecu with the 4g64 ecu *NOTE: MAKE SURE IT IS A 2001+ ECU* you can flash the ecu with ecuflash, there is a guy on www.club3g.com named flashbluers, who can reflash the ecu to give you more parameters like the evo ecu AND remove the immobilizer if you want. you just need the tactrix cable, laptop and to contact flashbluers to do whatever it is that you want. he does tuning too if you want, but you need some sorta datalogger like evoscan and a wideband, makes it easier.

kinda funny how i was looking for a cylinder head using the search and this popped up. well i hope it helps you guys some. oh yeah, on club3g there are a few who have attempted the evo head swap and have sucessfully done it. there is a guy on there who did a evo dohc swap and kept it N/A.

and oh yeah another thing that you guys might find interesting... the kia optima and hyndai sonata have similar cylinder heads! they are both dohc and can be swappable! don't worry it doesn't say hyndai or kia on them. there was another guy, sorry i don't remember their names, but he did a kia optima head swap and just swapped out the internals with evo parts. but if you go on there and search around you guys will find the threads about the dohc swaps and what's compatiable with the 4g64 motor.
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