sure that is a best, they might compere it to the 2015 final edition. But still remains an 8 years old car.

I wonder if they actually would do it. In my point of view, its a meaningless test.

I mean if you came out with a new car, what you can gain to test your car against a car which came out 8 years ago?

You cant win. If it faster, then you proved you made a car which beats an old car on the market. If you break even, or I don't even dare to say... loose, then what?

I don't think it would be a smart idea from Ford.

I rather would test it against the STI - R32 etc. Or even just your own the ST , to prove it how much better the RS is vs the ST so it is well worth the price.

but I am not a media person so very possible I see it wrong.

 

Why is that? People want to know the potential of the platform (especially with minor mods and a retune). There is a reason almost noone leaves their evo stock.

 

because , different cars , react differently to mods.

There for if you have a same intake /exhaust and tune only , that might yield more for the Evo then a RS (theoretically speaking)
When let say the RS would gain more with other mod, which would closely cost a same. But then you are using different mods for a same test.

Its just too many variables to make it fair, if that would exists in a mods world anyway.

stock vs stock that is a best. I might actually say ... if only tune would be allowed, so mechanically nothing change in the car... that would be in some sense fair.

But then again same tuner not necessarily tunes a same way different cars. Also you will tune it just to prove a point or you tune it to able to run with that tune let say 100K miles and beyond?

you see its a never ending story. Food for the internet warriors

 

Then those people should do their own research. Stock vs. stock is fair. Once you factor in mods, you're naturally going to favour one car over the other, and provide too much fodder for people to endlessly bicker on internet forums.

 

Stock the RS has a 60hp advantage. That alone it will dominate, it's not even a contest.

 

not necessarily.

 

I love Evos, and I am completely uninterested in purchasing an RS. But if you think a stock Evo can hang with one on a racetrack with that kind of power and tire deficit, you're sorely mistaken.

 

if you think HP is all there is to winning, you're sorely mistaken. and you didn't mention tires until just now.

 

If you think I'm that stupid, ok.

The RS isn't some crappy chassis poor handling slow car with a lot of horsepower.
I mentioned tires because we are talking stock vs. stock. This car has all the ingredients to be really quick stock.

Of course I believe with both cars modded the Evo will thrash it. You can get a lot of tire under an Evo and Direct Injection won't be an asset at crazy-high horsepower levels. The ultimate potential of the 4G63 and even the 4B11 are hard to eclipse.

 

I agree Noize, but the RS has a great reputation, and it was never a miss on the market. We are literally talking about an equal contender for the evo, even more then the STI where, and the RS comes with an 8 years ahead technology.

The RS will be even more of a monster with mods. I am only hesitating on the haldex system, but my experience is ancient on that, so I have a big hopes even on that department.

Only thing is with haldex , back then it was very expensive, if something did go wrong. Will see how this new haldex approach for ford will hold the extra power what the RS get with aftermarket support.
So I am hoping the RS haldex and clutch system on the drive train will handle the extra TQ. THAT will be a deciding factor I think here, and not the extra power on the engine.
IMHO

 

I don't think you're anything, I'm just replying to what you said. Nobody knows what the RS will do, but you plainly said the 60hp difference will allow it to thrash the Evo around the race track. I think that's an irresponsible statement.

 

no its not, 60 hp do go a long way in the RS or even in the Evo, specially if you aware the rest of the car.
60hp is actually more then 20% of the Evo factory numbers...

The Evos between 340-350 hp are quiet faster then the standard 291 hp version
Like the FQ340 is a pretty quick car...

"Mitsubishi claims acceleration to 100 km/h (62 mph) in 4.1 seconds for the FQ-360, 4.4 seconds for the FQ-330 and 4.7 seconds for the FQ-300. But this tells only half the story. "

http://www.edmunds.com/mitsubishi/la...8/road-test-3/

 

The rest of what car? The one we really know little about? The one that hasn't turned a lap around a race track?
Horsepower is not the end all of lap times. Noize said the 60hp alone is enough to own the Evo. I disagree.
*edit 0-60 times mean just as little.

 

that is all true, besides the fact we know enough to be safely assume the RS wll be faster.
-Weight
-tires
-gearing
-HP
-TQ
-rim size
etc.
All goes for the RS.

If the RS will be slower then it probably would have one of the worst AWD system will come out in 2016.

Just step back for a sec, and think about it. Noise I think just highlighted it: the 60hp alone with the rest of the car being equal would be enough to make the RS untouchable for a stock evo.

that is how I understand it.

 

Let me be more clear what I am trying to say. Rob and Amby mentioned comparing them stock, which is where my comment came from.

The chassis, AWD system are implied, because they're already on the RS. Hundreds of posts in, I think we all know the specs of the RS front to back. I'm not saying any 350HP piece of crap can beat an Evo. With 60 extra HP and even the standard Pilot Super Sports, a 100% stock RS is a serious AWD performance car, and should handily beat a stock Evo. With the optional Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires, it will undoubtedly thrash a stock Evo.

Ford got egg on its face with the SVT Focus back in 2002 when it was widely marketed as a Honda killer until it got trampled around the track by them. They made sure not to duplicate that mistake with the Focus ST, and it was benchmarked ahead of the mk6 GTI, beating it handily in every performance category.

The RS is no different. They know this car is going to be heavily compared to the STI, Golf R, and even the Evo. The extra power and Sport Cup 2s all but guarantee it will be the fastest turbo-4 AWD ever tested in the US. The RS ingredients are there for a very fast stock car. It's not hype. You don't have to take my word for it. Wait and see.