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Which is exactly why I asked, and then did the research to learn more about it. The have been tuning with ALS cars, and pops and bang tunes for decades in the UK, so lancerregister is where I looked for answers.
If you think putting extra fuel into your exhaust to "sound cool" is a good thing, that is your choice.
If you think putting extra fuel into your exhaust to "sound cool" is a good thing, that is your choice.
I have also driven a full grN evo with propper ALS and yes.. it works.. it also costs in repairs..
However, there are some really clever ALS setups currently present in road vehicles, such as 991 turbo, and YES it works.. oh boy does it work..
personally, I am interested in some ALS setups that mix and ignite fuel outside the combustion chamber and then coll it a bit and only then introduce it pre turbo.. there is such a system on subaru and it was in fact used on a full works WRC impreza some time ago.. it is complicated, though.
Point is.. there are several ways of doing it, not all are effective and not all are dangerous.. it is just a question of time and money... If you are jsut looking for better pickup between shifts, then tephra NLTS is all you need.
I have driven several street cars with pops and bangs and I get tired of the noise after a while...l but it is entertaining initially..
I have also driven a full grN evo with propper ALS and yes.. it works.. it also costs in repairs..
However, there are some really clever ALS setups currently present in road vehicles, such as 991 turbo, and YES it works.. oh boy does it work..
personally, I am interested in some ALS setups that mix and ignite fuel outside the combustion chamber and then coll it a bit and only then introduce it pre turbo.. there is such a system on subaru and it was in fact used on a full works WRC impreza some time ago.. it is complicated, though.
Point is.. there are several ways of doing it, not all are effective and not all are dangerous.. it is just a question of time and money... If you are jsut looking for better pickup between shifts, then tephra NLTS is all you need.
I have also driven a full grN evo with propper ALS and yes.. it works.. it also costs in repairs..
However, there are some really clever ALS setups currently present in road vehicles, such as 991 turbo, and YES it works.. oh boy does it work..
personally, I am interested in some ALS setups that mix and ignite fuel outside the combustion chamber and then coll it a bit and only then introduce it pre turbo.. there is such a system on subaru and it was in fact used on a full works WRC impreza some time ago.. it is complicated, though.
Point is.. there are several ways of doing it, not all are effective and not all are dangerous.. it is just a question of time and money... If you are jsut looking for better pickup between shifts, then tephra NLTS is all you need.
I'm going to trust that the engineers and bean counters over at Ford know more about the consequences of a mild tuning change than you. If it presented a risk of failure, there's no way Ford would do it. All of your issues are speculation, combined with almost doomsday thinking. Sure, it probably raises EGTs briefly. Like, split second briefly. The impact it has on fuel efficiency it similarly likely negligible. I really doubt it harms the turbo either.
haha I'm sure the wonderful owners of STIs thought the same about the Subaru engineers until ring lands started dis-agreeing.
Except that Subaru knew about the problem, which kind of proves my point. If the risk of damage caused by some popping noises was significant, Ford wouldn't have designed the car to make the popping noises.
I have driven several street cars with pops and bangs and I get tired of the noise after a while...l but it is entertaining initially..
I have also driven a full grN evo with propper ALS and yes.. it works.. it also costs in repairs..
However, there are some really clever ALS setups currently present in road vehicles, such as 991 turbo, and YES it works.. oh boy does it work..
personally, I am interested in some ALS setups that mix and ignite fuel outside the combustion chamber and then coll it a bit and only then introduce it pre turbo.. there is such a system on subaru and it was in fact used on a full works WRC impreza some time ago.. it is complicated, though.
Point is.. there are several ways of doing it, not all are effective and not all are dangerous.. it is just a question of time and money... If you are jsut looking for better pickup between shifts, then tephra NLTS is all you need.
I have also driven a full grN evo with propper ALS and yes.. it works.. it also costs in repairs..
However, there are some really clever ALS setups currently present in road vehicles, such as 991 turbo, and YES it works.. oh boy does it work..
personally, I am interested in some ALS setups that mix and ignite fuel outside the combustion chamber and then coll it a bit and only then introduce it pre turbo.. there is such a system on subaru and it was in fact used on a full works WRC impreza some time ago.. it is complicated, though.
Point is.. there are several ways of doing it, not all are effective and not all are dangerous.. it is just a question of time and money... If you are jsut looking for better pickup between shifts, then tephra NLTS is all you need.
Also about the ALS, when you said its cost money, in reality ALS per race cost less then the tires.
In racing everything needs attention and repairs. What the ALS gives you as an advantage itself, well worth the price.
Anyhow Pops and Bangs as an option: rocks. I personally think a lot more then a "drift" mode.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Nov 20, 2015 at 12:11 AM.
As long as we have incessant farkling around about bangs, pops and flames. Wonder if marketing messed with the BOV sounds too?
I would have put a dial in the cabin so you could accentuate flutter and woosh depending upon your mode or mood.
Go Ford
I would have put a dial in the cabin so you could accentuate flutter and woosh depending upon your mode or mood.
Go Ford
Some rev hanging you can hear , very similar to the Evo X we have.
I know after market exhaust will fix this, and will make it perfect
Sounds about right
Last edited by Robevo RS; Nov 25, 2015 at 04:30 AM.
i tried to get my car to make crazy noises... but all the timing and fuel adjustments i made didn't affect the car because it's i closed loop during decel, i'm guessing. bleh. i wanted to play too LOL
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I bet there are quite a few people that switch to them, probably more X owners though. People will always have that "the grass is greener" feeling until they try it. Will be interesting to see how many go to RS and come back to Evo.