That is because you are the correct demographic for the car. But I suspect you will not buy one, because Ford did not go far enough. They hedged their bet and watered it down for mass consumption, even though they already had the ST for that.

 

If we took that approach, 95% of the comments in this thread should have gotten the same reaction. I don't think anybody here works for Ford, but they're still offering their input.

 

some input is better than other like 90% of your statistics are made up

 

I personally find the Golf R to be an entirely unattractive, very blah car. I also don't get the raving for VW interiors. They feel very cold to me.

For a DD, does the nature of the AWD system *really* matter to you, so long as it works? Or do you mean a DD in the way some of the 700 HP Evo 8/9 owners talk about a DD? If you're using the car as-is, I guess I don't get the complaints. Obviously if you're planning on massively upping the power or using it as a track vehicle, AWD limitations matter.

I'm probably at an 8/10 for now.

Pros: It's basically everything we asked for - AWD, turbo, hatch, decent price. Looks good (I like the FoST too). Engine may have headroom for more power.

Cons: Lousy color choices. Doesn't look ridiculous like an RS should. Engine/AWD systems may not have headroom for more power.

TBD: Exhaust sound in regular use.

 

What do you mean by correct? I won't buy one, but that's because to me, it's too extreme. Yes, I understand the irony in that comment. I want a Golf R. For what I need a car for right now, the Golf R is a better fit (more comfortable, more grownup, more German). The lack of flares isn't a factor in my decision, and were I looking for a crazier car, I would consider a Ford RS, but I'd need to drive it first.

People accused Mitsubishi of watering the Evo down with the MR. Yet the X was arguably the best Evo ever made, and I'm certain the best selling, albeit that's not saying much given their general sales figures. Was the Ralliart also watered down because it only came with the twin-clutch transmission? It too was very popular. It's great when a brand makes these niche cars, but they're not popular, and they're financial losers. I like the fact that Ford is apparently contemplating a more hardcore RS. That's not an admission of failure on their part, it's an admission that making cars for the few people who want to daily a caged badger isn't a good business model.

 

Cool, bro, block my posts then if they upset you that much.

 

I see this car being an awesome bolt-ons/tuned daily driver car. Time will tell what the AWD can handle beyond that..

 

All your questions where answered by Ford in their videos. They specifically talk about why they didn't do fender flares, and reference RS of past, and address your other questions.

Much like the whole CT9A weight discussion we recently went through, you just aren't paying attention.

 

8/10 but I think I'm being realistic with my expectations of a factory vehicle in 2015.

 

I mean a car enthusiast that might have the financial ability to actually buy the car.

I don't know to many people saying the X was the best Evo ever made. The VI through IX are certainly more accomplished in motorsports.

 

Ow really. So why did they choose to go with an open front diff? Why did they choose such a limited (and boring) color selection? Why no aluminum body panels or suspension components?

 

Watch the videos dude. I don't spoon feed and you should really pay more attention before crying foul.

Not sure if they answer the open diff thing in the videos, but that wasn't part of the questions you asked that I quoted. Don't forget the 'majestic' 03/04 Evo had an open front diff too and that car sucked too, right?

Color wise, I dunno what to tell you, they have the same base colors the Evo 10 come in, white, gray, black and one "colorful" color, blue. So it's missing red and silver compared to the Evo 10. It's only one less color than the ST is offered in too. So how is it a boring and limited choice? Because you can't get it in red? You want all the colors of the rainbow?

Let me guess (and assume since that's the trend here). You are only after supermodels and won't lower your standards to an actual realistic level?

 

I guess we can agree to disagree. But the videos do not adequately answer my main complaints. Which are: the conservative styling/color choices, the fwd biased awd, and the lack of weight saving materials.

Of course the answer to 99 out of a 100 questions is money. I am just sad the bean counters won the day yet again.

 

But they answer the questions I quoted you on. You are shifting your stance once again just like you always do when your challenged. The videos answer your questions I quoted you on and also some of the above. (Imagine that) They talk about the paint choices too, and the lack of weight saving materials and the decisions of why.

Again, 03/04 Evo 8 had open diff too and that car totally sucked right?

Technically you are correct that under normal cruise the AWD system is FWD biased like most haldex systems. However to say it is FWD biased when using it in a performance environment is totally incorrect and if you argue with that, once again you haven't been paying attention.

 

You would have complained if the car was 350lbs lighter, had the AWD you wanted, the "aggressive" styling (the car already looks great IMO), and it cost $45k-$50K. You would be saying Ford is stupid for trying to bring such an expensive car into the hot hatch market. The car is competitively priced, and within the performance range of it competition. Sorry Ford couldn't build a racecar for $36k...