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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 03:30 PM
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Outside rear tire spins fastest. It has the longest path..
+1, which is why we have "different"ials. unless it's locked, of course.
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 07:56 PM
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Outside rear tire spins fastest. It has the longest path..
D'oh, you're right, not sure what I was thinking of
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 10:37 PM
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just wait for the terrible resale bc it's a ford though.
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Old Jun 26, 2015 | 11:09 PM
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just wait for the terrible resale bc it's a ford though.
The current mustangs don't have terrible resale, neither do the f150's.
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 03:51 AM
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Sounds like a nice cash cow for maint 10 years down the line. The more I hear, the less I want it.
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by OX
Sounds like a nice cash cow for maint 10 years down the line. The more I hear, the less I want it.
It's no different than the fancy AWD system in the Evo X, in terms of being a cash cow anyways.
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 09:11 AM
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This car is just not sexy at all. Ill take my evo w some bolt ons all day
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
It's no different than the fancy AWD system in the Evo X, in terms of being a cash cow anyways.
True, I don't want one of them either. .............

I'm not saying ford (or any of the manufacturers) should not be striving for the last ounce of performance,
but at some point with enough tech, it is going to price the "poorer" guy out of the market for good (talking older used car).

Can you imagine attempting a home diagnose and fix of all these systems, which are now completely integrated together,
on a used 10 year old car you bought for some street fun or to "budget" racing. Hopefully the built in diagnostics
are spectacular and/or available to use for the car owner.

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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by OX
True, I don't want one of them either. .............

I'm not saying ford (or any of the manufacturers) should not be striving for the last ounce of performance,
but at some point with enough tech, it is going to price the "poorer" guy out of the market for good (talking older used car).

Can you imagine attempting a home diagnose and fix of all these systems, which are now completely integrated together,
on a used 10 year old car you bought for some street fun or to "budget" racing. Hopefully the built in diagnostics
are spectacular and/or available to use for the car owner.
All ECUs get unlocked sooner or later. People will be able to DIY in no time, I'm sure.
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jeremy52048
just wait for the terrible resale bc it's a ford though.
I'd be first in line. I couldn't afford a new Evo, either. LOL
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by OX
True, I don't want one of them either. .............

I'm not saying ford (or any of the manufacturers) should not be striving for the last ounce of performance,
but at some point with enough tech, it is going to price the "poorer" guy out of the market for good (talking older used car).

Can you imagine attempting a home diagnose and fix of all these systems, which are now completely integrated together,
on a used 10 year old car you bought for some street fun or to "budget" racing. Hopefully the built in diagnostics
are spectacular and/or available to use for the car owner.


I'll bet the clutches in the haldex and the rear diff last a long time. Wet clutches are very robust. Just like you don't really hear about the ACD clutch wearing out in the Evo unless it gets towed with one end of the car on the ground. You may develop leaks, but I'm sure there are pressure sensors everywhere to give pretty good codes to at least get a general idea of what's leaking.
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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by JasonM163
This car is just not sexy at all. Ill take my evo w some bolt ons all day
Well sexy comes in all shapes and sizes now doesn't it.

Originally Posted by jeremy52048
just wait for the terrible resale bc it's a ford though.
I guess Europe hasn't been told it's a Ford yet then. Previous RS models still demanding high resale values. Wish I could afford a Boss 429 Mustang.

Darn Fords


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Old Jun 27, 2015 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by OX
True, I don't want one of them either. .............

I'm not saying ford (or any of the manufacturers) should not be striving for the last ounce of performance,
but at some point with enough tech, it is going to price the "poorer" guy out of the market for good (talking older used car).

Can you imagine attempting a home diagnose and fix of all these systems, which are now completely integrated together,
on a used 10 year old car you bought for some street fun or to "budget" racing. Hopefully the built in diagnostics
are spectacular and/or available to use for the car owner.
If the manufacturers get their way, you won't be able to work on your own car in 10 years any way.
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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian0611
If the manufacturers get their way, you won't be able to work on your own car in 10 years any way.
I can't believe they're actually trying to pass this. It's already hard enough bringing your car in to the dealer to get something fix under warranty without them acting like there's absolutely nothing wrong...
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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 12:42 PM
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I can't believe they're actually trying to pass this. It's already hard enough bringing your car in to the dealer to get something fix under warranty without them acting like there's absolutely nothing wrong...
Wut? The controversial proposed changes are with respect to copyright law and whether it applies to car ECU software.
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