Well since I had my first evo II, then II, then III, then V, then VIII then another VIII, mixed with 2 GD subarus... peppered with several RWD non ABS, non traction control cars ranging from 200 to 600+hp I don't think that's poser at all.

My apologies for actually wanting to learn (and over my experience then teach others) those vehicle dynamics that we like to tell stories about.

Maybe taking a go in a 'analog' car would humble us all a little!

 

Cool story, bro.

 

You guys are the ones that will be out there on track with them so good luck to you... sorry I don't have enough street cred lol.

 

You're just mad because people don't like the car you want, relax fam

 

I don't want a Focus RS, fam. I just find his humble brag hilarious. Nobody cares that he's driven all those cars and wants to improve himself. He should go buy a car other than an Evo, RS, STI, etc. if that's his position.

 

Im not sure what you mean, would you care to explain please?

 

Its hard to describe to anyone who has not driven, and I mean really driven, an 'analog' car. People often compare early model evos to go-karts. Hydraulic steering with a quick ratio rack, 50-50 torque split, short gear ratio transmissions.

Sometimes less really is more.

 

When we used to drag race FWD cars, we had to have a bit of of spin off the line. Keeping RPM up made the cars faster (torqueless wonders).

 

The only "analog" I've ever driven was a Ford Fairlane with a blown 408 Windsor making around 1,000whp on 100 octane pump gas through a C6. It had a manual rack, manual brakes, big drag tires in the back, and regular street tires up front (no skinnies). It was, ummm, scary....lol

 

Well that is an extreme example and fear probably made it impossible to really connect with the car. The idea though is to "feel" the feedback the car provides for a more visceral (and interactive) experience. Too many cars have put electronics in the way of that. There is a reason lots of enthusiasts still want manual transmissions (even if they are slower).

 

I know, it was more of a joke. The scary part wasn't the power, it was the slow ratio steering that made it all but impossible to correct anymore than a few degrees of slip angle. A big hp sloppy muscle car is no comparison to a sports car...lol

 

I know what you mean though. I remember my first ride in a super-coupe T-bird. The combination of the car's weight, lazyboy suspension, and power was terrifying.

 

You made it personal by telling us all about what cars you've owned, and your apparent prowess in handling difficult cars.

If you don't want a car with "nannies", or rather systems designed to make the car exciting but also safe to drive for the average consumer, then don't buy a car with those features. It's that simple.

 

Ahhhh simply said from a babbling idiot. Thank you for your input.


Moving on...

 

Interestingly i find it the opposite way, for me when the S-AWC fully up and running in the Evo X, less predictable for me at the limit vs the so called analog Rally Evo X i have.
Which has no ABS- AYC for an example, only electronically controlled equipment which you personally interact are the ACD and the throttle pedal.
No brake booster nothing. it is really what you feel that is what you get.

so i am guessing it is all about the car itself how it is set up, and how is yourdriving style match with the nannies, so they are hold you back or help you...