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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:33 PM
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Because then half of us would be getting **** faced to cope with the other half.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:44 PM
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You can't buy an Evo X RS in the US. The RS also doesn't have Recaros or Brembos, apparently. Not really like to like, you know, full weight street car with a functioning stereo, AC, Recaros, etc. to a car designed to be turned into a race car.
i like when you actually, polite and show some knowledge
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:46 PM
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Uh, thanks?
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:48 PM
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i did say it with good intentions.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 03:36 PM
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Waaaaaay too many pages to go through to see if he posted or if someone else did but a buddy of mine won the Ken Block modified Focus RS from SEMA this year. Pretty sick!
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Why do I feel that if we where all around a table at a bar having beers this whole thread and conversation would be a totally different dynamic?
We'd have changed topics several months ago...

Originally Posted by ambystom01
Because then half of us would be getting **** faced to cope with the other half.
... and that.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 06MRV8Killer
Waaaaaay too many pages to go through to see if he posted or if someone else did but a buddy of mine won the Ken Block modified Focus RS from SEMA this year. Pretty sick!
That's cool, BUT HAS HE WEIGHED IT YET?!?!?!?!







http://artofgears.com/2015/11/10/thi...dded-focus-rs/


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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 04:59 PM
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http://artofgears.com/2015/10/14/mat...paign=NextPost

Galpin Ford is getting 10 for 2015 (I assume that actually means 2016 MY)? That leads me to believe this is much less "special edition" than previously thought.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 04:38 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Totally different motor, different drivetrain, different brakes, different wheels, different tires, different spring rates and dampening and I'm sure other little things I'm probably forgetting.

It's not just adding AWD and some HP.

I'm not trying to defend it, I'm just trying to create accuracy.
I knew that would be pointed out as the over simplification it is when I wrote it. I didn't want to type a long drawn out explanation trying to explain what I think/feel while also delving into another Evo comparison but, here goes...

I get that there a bunch of little tweaks like wheels, springs, tires, wing, etc... I'm wasn't going to get lost in the minutia of things that most enthusiasts will change on the car anyway. I was trying to point out the things that I think fundamentally make a special model of a vehicle special. On the RS to me those main components are it having more power and awd.

Things like recaros and brembos factor in there as well but, not quite as heavily as the first two for me. The other stuff, well of course it's going to be different, it's a different model. Changing wheels and tires from one model to another is pretty standard stuff these days as is tuning the suspension specifically for that model so, I'm not really counting those as "major" changes.

I know the motor is unique to that car but, it's new and we know nothing about this particular variants potential. We can make some assumptions based on the mustang engine but, either way for now I'm not really emotionally attached to it so, I'm choosing to look at it just as increased power.

When I bought my evo the things I considered that made it really special were, the engine (power), AWD, flared fenders, aluminum hood and fenders and the host of "name brand" goodies. Recaros, brembos, momo wheel, enkei wheels, etc... But, mainly still to me it it was the first 3 things that made it fundamentally an Evo. You could take the rest of the stuff and bolt it onto a lancer but an Evo it would not make.

Now I know the RS has 2 of those three things but, to me the flared fenders are a big part of what really makes the "hot" model of a car feel like something special. It's a big part of why I chose the M3 over the M4 (dat ***). To be fair I have the same criticism of the Golf R and I was really disappointed when they gave the WRX the STI fenders.

That's pretty much it, there are a few other things like not having thinner glass, DCT (as an option) or aluminum suspension that bother me too but, basically it just comes down to they left too much too similar to the normal focus for me to buy one. If you feel differently that's awesome.

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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 07:20 AM
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Yes, agreed with Kyle. We have enough more than enough data to see the bones of what the car is.
Things I don't like:
-Open front differential that works off brakes.
-Heavy suspension components
-AWD system preprogrammed to only allow x torque to rear wheels, even when power increased.
-Manufacturer claims not much headroom in engine

The Golf R is similar underneath, is lighter, has a much prettier wrapper, has an infinitely better interior, but a less sophisticated AWD system. I'd happily daily drive the Golf. No way I'd spend money on a Focus.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 07:24 AM
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but you cant get the golf sideways like an evo =[
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 07:30 AM
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The not "much headroom" likely stems from typical manufacturers constraints, which are reliability and emissions. OEM radiators and intercoolers a can always be replaced with more efficient parts.

We still don't know what turbo is on it, but if it's a BW K04, it's pretty close to maxed out. So a substantial power increase like we are used to getting with bolt ons and tuning with an Evo would require a turbo upgrade on the FoRS if that is the case.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
Yes, agreed with Kyle. We have enough more than enough data to see the bones of what the car is.
Things I don't like:
-Open front differential that works off brakes.
-Heavy suspension components
-AWD system preprogrammed to only allow x torque to rear wheels, even when power increased.
-Manufacturer claims not much headroom in engine

The Golf R is similar underneath, is lighter, has a much prettier wrapper, has an infinitely better interior, but a less sophisticated AWD system. I'd happily daily drive the Golf. No way I'd spend money on a Focus.
I can't get over how ugly the Golf R is in my opinion.

I just build one on VW's site and it looked like a crossover SUV...
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by MisterRegato
but you cant get the golf sideways like an evo =[
Having owned a Golf R, I will respectfully disagree with that statement.
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Old Nov 13, 2015 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Having owned a Golf R, I will respectfully disagree with that statement.

watch the vid rob posted half way down the page (work wont let me on youtube)

the guy cant drive for **** apparently then...

https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...y-evo-x-2.html

its a head to head against the evo and golf r
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