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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
http://www.roadraceengineering.com/e...evoweights.htm
comes up as This webpage is not available

Have a working link?
The link works for me in my original post and my quoted post. Your copied link does not work.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ak47po
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/ne...cus-rs-planned

Even hotter Ford Focus RS planned

Quicker, lighter Focus RS special is under consideration by Ford; 0-60mph could dip below 4.0sec

Ford Performance is watching reaction to the new Focus RS closely before signing off an even quicker limited-run special.

Ford insiders have confirmed that an even more hardcore version of the 345bhp five-door is under consideration - and it has the potential to be the fastest-accelerating hatchback in history.

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However, the car’s 2.3-litre four-cylinder turbo petrol engine is already operating close to its maximum and attempts to conjure more power will be hampered by the lack of room for additional cooling capacity.

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Those additions are likely to consist of an electronically controlled limited-slip differential for the front axle, tuned to work with the GKN-supplied rear drive unit, and 
a dual-clutch automatic gearbox. A limited-slip front-axle differential is already known to improve the RS’s handling and was under consideration for the standard car, an insider has revealed.

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Rather fascinating implicit commentary on the standard RS. No room for additional cooling capacity? Front diff is open?
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hotrod2448
than them take this budget approach where really the only big expensive change they've made is adding AWD and some HP.
Totally different motor, different drivetrain, different brakes, different wheels, different tires, different spring rates and dampening and I'm sure other little things I'm probably forgetting.

It's not just adding AWD and some HP.

I'm not trying to defend it, I'm just trying to create accuracy.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mrfred
Front diff is open?
I talked about that earlier in this thread. The Golf R and most Haldex based systems are like that.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 12:56 PM
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FWIW, ill be weighing my IX MR tomorrow. I'm hoping the scale is accurate. It's for trucks. LOL
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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my 2006 IX RS was when Robi put it on his scale around 3150lbs. Caged. I have no acces now for that sheet.
My Evo 2008 X GSR back in 2008 with full interior , no spare, no rear crash beam, single exhaust cat back (stock cat on it) and after market wheels and coilovers.


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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
FWIW, ill be weighing my IX MR tomorrow. I'm hoping the scale is accurate. It's for trucks. LOL
I think it's great that you are weighing it but let's not forget we are talking about showroom stock shipping production cars here.

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my IX was when Robi put it on his scale around 3150lbs. Caged. I have no acces now for that sheet.
My Evo 2008 X GSR back in 2008 with full interior , no spare, no rear crash beam, single exhaust cat back (stock cat on it) and after market wheels.
Please, can we stop bringing in non-showroom stock production car weights into a discussion around a showroom stock production car?
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 01:14 PM
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You are right, i just put it there the IX RS i had stripped but caged was over 3100 lbs.

The X weight... i just found it. lol I know i have the stock IX RS sheet somwhere too, but i am in Paris right now so i cant look up my paper work.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
I think it's great that you are weighing it but let's not forget we are talking about showroom stock shipping production cars here.
My car is pretty danged stock when it comes to weight. Even my turbo is the same size as stock 😁

**oops, I do have an aftermarket exhaust.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
My car is pretty danged stock when it comes to weight. Even my turbo is the same size as stock ��

**oops, I do have an aftermarket exhaust.
This is the problem with saying "Stock". Everybody has their own opinion on it. Do you still have your spare, tools and jack in the back? Do you not have coilovers?

Stock is stock as it rolls out of the dealer when you buy it. No changes, everything in, nothing out.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:04 PM
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Why am I not surprised that the notion of stock weight is an issue here?
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:06 PM
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Well the Stock Evo X RS is jsut about 3130 lbs
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:18 PM
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You can't buy an Evo X RS in the US. The RS also doesn't have Recaros or Brembos, apparently. Not really like to like, you know, full weight street car with a functioning stereo, AC, Recaros, etc. to a car designed to be turned into a race car.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
This is the problem with saying "Stock". Everybody has their own opinion on it. Do you still have your spare, tools and jack in the back? Do you not have coilovers?

Stock is stock as it rolls out of the dealer when you buy it. No changes, everything in, nothing out.
i'm actually kinda weird and weight the differences of parts when i swapped them LOL. i'm pretty sure i can do the math and be within a few lbs. not like i'm going to be 100lbs off or anything. but if we're being technical, then no: the car won't be weighed 100% stock.
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Old Nov 12, 2015 | 02:29 PM
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Why do I feel that if we where all around a table at a bar having beers this whole thread and conversation would be a totally different dynamic?
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