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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 09:55 PM
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That article certainly doesn't sell me on the car.


Also, piping engine noise into the cabin? WTF, it's not a BMW.
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave W.
Given a 45K budget, what would you rather have? The Focus RS, the cheapest GTR you can find, or a 996 turbo plus $10k in the bank for mods?
Well We have to also recognize the cost that will be associated after that. The insurance, the cost of mod or fix things, the don't-know-what-the-heck-the-previous-owner-done-to-it, the feeling of being used... Have you ever consider the cost of servicing the Porsche and GTR? You don't wanna know... but if you do please visit their forums and find out.

Don't just throw out the initial numbers like that's all it'll take.
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 10:48 PM
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Guys, can we stop trying to compare a brand new car to various used models? It's a stupid comparison. It's like the silly stock vs. modded "tests" that get discussed.
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Old Feb 2, 2016 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by G20
Well We have to also recognize the cost that will be associated after that. The insurance, the cost of mod or fix things, the don't-know-what-the-heck-the-previous-owner-done-to-it, the feeling of being used... Have you ever consider the cost of servicing the Porsche and GTR? You don't wanna know... but if you do please visit their forums and find out.

Don't just throw out the initial numbers like that's all it'll take.
Warranty FTW
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 02:14 AM
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Piped noise is lame whoever does it.

Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
That article certainly doesn't sell me on the car.


Also, piping engine noise into the cabin? WTF, it's not a BMW.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by G20
Well We have to also recognize the cost that will be associated after that. The insurance, the cost of mod or fix things, the don't-know-what-the-heck-the-previous-owner-done-to-it, the feeling of being used... Have you ever consider the cost of servicing the Porsche and GTR? You don't wanna know... but if you do please visit their forums and find out.

Don't just throw out the initial numbers like that's all it'll take.
you are absoloutley right the after cost of my e55 was disgusting but its still an e55 when it does run isnt it?


most will void and try to challenge their warrantee with their new rs anyway
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Ralliart004
you are absoloutley right the after cost of my e55 was disgusting but its still an e55 when it does run isnt it?


most will void and try to challenge their warrantee with their new rs anyway
for DD I would love to have a GTR, definitely would be a great deal if I could find a good one around 45K
But for the price and value I think the C63 AMG is the king for me.

Insanely good car for a value when they are used I think. Specially this edition, my dream DD.




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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Focus ST or Focus RS?
This guy actually likes the ST more then the RS. But IIRC, he said something similar about the GTI vs. the R, which would mean he's certifiable.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave W.
Given a 45K budget, what would you rather have? The Focus RS, the cheapest GTR you can find, or a 996 turbo plus $10k in the bank for mods?
If you're spending $45k on a GTR, you're going to be spending that $10k in the bank on maintenance and repairs, not mods.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 08:13 AM
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The real question is will the Focus RS hurt STI, Golf R, and eventual CTR sales? Unless Ford starts making a lot more RS' in the next few years, the answer is no.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 08:48 AM
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This guy is far from my favorite automotive journalist, he has a long history of being a Volkswagen apologist, but this is interesting that he says the Focus ST is substantially more fun.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-...-drive-review/
interesting review. there are definitely merits to a loose fwd car with good amounts of power, at least at autox. one quote stuck out to me:

Torque-vectoring or not, the RS’ front tires are doing most of the work. They get hot more quickly than the rears, inducing understeer and revealing the limitations of this particular torque-vectoring system: it can only fix the understeer when you’re on power. Alas, that requires a simple workaround—enter the corner slowly so you can get back on the gas sooner to let the rear end turn the car. And then the smile returns.
which basically makes the car sound more or less like every other awd currently out there available with a decent rear diff. actually the acd tune has helped with my evo as far as off power/on brakes behavior for whatever reason, and I believe s-awc does all of that and more on the X.

and actually, if it's not effective in managing braking/off throttle behavior, sounds like it's not as well integrated as s-awc on the X.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 10:58 AM
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Sounds like it could probably use some suspension tuning, as well as tweaks to the AWD programming.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WestSideBilly
Also, piping engine noise into the cabin? WTF, it's not a BMW.
Originally Posted by moparfan
Piped noise is lame whoever does it.
AHAHA, I called it. Earlier in this thread I stated: "Wait you until you find out Ford pipes the intake noise into the cabin, then you are really going to loose your minds".

And... scene..

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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Noize
This guy is far from my favorite automotive journalist, he has a long history of being a Volkswagen apologist, but this is interesting that he says the Focus ST is substantially more fun.
http://www.motortrend.com/news/2016-...-drive-review/
They say/said the same thing with the VW GTI vs Golf R comparison, but we all know which one of those two we would rather have.
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Old Feb 3, 2016 | 11:30 AM
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Its worse than piped noise, "Electronic Sound Enhancement" is played through the speakers. Might as well just get a CD of a V10 to listen to and key the volume to your rpms http://www.focusrs.org/forum/30-focu...-speakers.html

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