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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 06:08 AM
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Doesn't it weigh roughly the same (within 100 lbs) as a base 2015 GSR?




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"And I’ll take things a step further – it’s a genuinely significant car this, a potential game changer. From now on, four-wheel drive no longer means lumpy and heavy, it means faster, grippier and driftier. It means no less nimble, but a lot more versatile. The Golf R got the ball rolling, this moves expectations to another level. Dirty it may be, but the Focus RS is about to clean up"
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 06:13 AM
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Doesn't it weigh roughly the same (within 100 lbs) as a base 2015 GSR?
it does, but has roughly 60hp and 47 lb/ft torque advantage , besides the tires etc.

So doeant matter, will be faster.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 10:12 AM
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First you put a higher gear ratio in the rear differential than in the front differential. Normal, sport, track and drift modes are then simply progressive increases in clutch pack pressures in the rear differential. To put it another way, normal is front wheel drive and drift is with the rear axles locked up.

What do all of you guys have to say who have been missionaries of the "all tires have to be identical or the Evo AWD system explodes"? Seems Ford has decided that that is not a problem and is willing to stress the system.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by barneyb
First you put a higher gear ratio in the rear differential than in the front differential. Normal, sport, track and drift modes are then simply progressive increases in clutch pack pressures in the rear differential. To put it another way, normal is front wheel drive and drift is with the rear axles locked up.

What do all of you guys have to say who have been missionaries of the "all tires have to be identical or the Evo AWD system explodes"? Seems Ford has decided that that is not a problem and is willing to stress the system.
Wut? Apples to oranges comparison.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 11:35 AM
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I was just keying in on the weight. Remember how people were pissed how outrageously fat the Evo x was? It was ahead of its time in obesity. Now it's average weight.

I said it before, I would have bought the RS had it been available when I was ready to buy. I am unsure about the merits of the awd etc, but we'll them out as people abuse these things in the real world.

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it does, but has roughly 60hp and 47 lb/ft torque advantage , besides the tires etc.

So doeant matter, will be faster.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 12:20 PM
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People are still pissed about the weight, there's just nothing to do about it. And the fat chick is still fat, even though she's less fat than the others.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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So since this fat chick eagerly sticks her rear out people forgive the weight. Seems about right.

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People are still pissed about the weight, there's just nothing to do about it. And the fat chick is still fat, even though she's less fat than the others.
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Old Feb 27, 2016 | 08:57 PM
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" You sense it, too: the outside rear drives you through corners, while the system uses dabs of brake at the front to help tuck the nose in."




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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by moparfan
So since this fat chick eagerly sticks her rear out people forgive the weight. Seems about right.
haha. so many similarities.
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 02:38 PM
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People are still pissed about the weight, there's just nothing to do about it. And the fat chick is still fat, even though she's less fat than the others.
where I am racing there is a minimum weight limit and the X does reach that without problem,.
And on the street I actually cant even notice the weight difference ( I am not sure, its about 160 lbs or something? ).
You need to be I guess a super professional to feel that on street, I am not that level.
You do feel that difference in a stripped race car, but my street car is not that, I am guessing most of us doesn't drive a stripped race car on the street, so I am not sure how they are pissed on something they wont feel, Or maybe I am just the one who doesn't feel it.
The SAWC and the newer technologies in overall + the dimensions in the X is perfectly blend away the weight difference.
Never mind the stiffer chassis, a lot stiffer chassis. If you a racer, I am guessing you gladly give out some weight for extra stiffness...

In fact my 2014 X GSR SSL feels just as nimble as my 2003 8 GSR SSL did.


so if you are not racing, just drive on the street, I dont know where the butt hurt comes with that extra weight, maybe just bragging rights? lol

I leave that for the CT9A chassis guys, because that is the only one its left after 8 years.


so in short. I am sure the 2016 Ford RS will be just as light on her feet, and nimble as the X or the CT9A chassis.
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
where I am racing there is a minimum weight limit and the X does reach that without problem,.
And on the street I actually cant even notice the weight difference ( I am not sure, its about 160 lbs or something? ).
You need to be I guess a super professional to feel that on street, I am not that level.
You do feel that difference in a stripped race car, but my street car is not that, I am guessing most of us doesn't drive a stripped race car on the street, so I am not sure how they are pissed on something they wont feel, Or maybe I am just the one who doesn't feel it.
The SAWC and the newer technologies in overall + the dimensions in the X is perfectly blend away the weight difference.
Never mind the stiffer chassis, a lot stiffer chassis. If you a racer, I am guessing you gladly give out some weight for extra stiffness...

In fact my 2014 X GSR SSL feels just as nimble as my 2003 8 GSR SSL did.


so if you are not racing, just drive on the street, I dont know where the butt hurt comes with that extra weight, maybe just bragging rights? lol

I leave that for the CT9A chassis guys, because that is the only one its left after 8 years.


so in short. I am sure the 2016 Ford RS will be just as light on her feet, and nimble as the X or the CT9A chassis.
Nobody cares about weight on a car they are only going to use on the street. Those that only use a car for daily driving couldn't care any less how much their car weighs. That's a moot point.
A racer is usually going to cage the car for safety reasons, so between that and other bits to add, the chassis would be stiffer than stock. Since weight is being added back into the car they are very thankful to start with a lighter car.
Or at least that's why I'd assume it's big deal for some people.

I have no doubt the RS will do just fine, though being heavy. It works for plenty of other cars. Yay for technology LOL
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
Nobody cares about weight on a car they are only going to use on the street. Those that only use a car for daily driving couldn't care any less how much their car weighs. That's a moot point.
A racer is usually going to cage the car for safety reasons, so between that and other bits to add, the chassis would be stiffer than stock. Since weight is being added back into the car they are very thankful to start with a lighter car.
Or at least that's why I'd assume it's big deal for some people.

I have no doubt the RS will do just fine, though being heavy. It works for plenty of other cars. Yay for technology LOL
its amazing what they can do today cars. Even though they are heavy etc, they still perform like a champ and handle.

I am sure the tire technology adds on this too, but mainly the suspension etc.

Would be better lighter, for sure. Does it matter that much if you 100-200 lbs heavier, not anymore seems like.

the RS with that HP and TQ , plus the rest of technology should be a killer hatch on street and very competitive on track.

we will see how the tuning world and racing will work out with stock parts, but I have high hopes still.
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Old Feb 28, 2016 | 05:32 PM
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And people will strip them down plus add a bit of power. Should be interesting to see how it does then.
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 04:57 AM
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Old Feb 29, 2016 | 08:57 AM
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I cant believe that I am saying this, but I like the way they look. I haven't looked a whole lot into them, but I can see some potential there... They are a sharp looking piece of machinery.
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