So 229lbs. heavier than a Evo IX SE, also with the 3/4 tank of gas and with the spare/jack/trunk mat removed. I don't think the RS has a spare tire/jack.

Mitsubishi lists the GSR-SE at 3263 pounds, and we weighed it at 3223 with 10 gallons of fuel. Take out the fuel weight and it weighs 3171. We also weighed it without the spare/jack/trunk mat (42 pounds) at 3191 pounds with 10 gallons of fuel (3/4 tank; test weights shown below). Take out the fuel weight from that (62 pounds of fuel) and it weighs 3129 at "Race Weight". https://www.vorshlag.com/tech_evoweights.php

 

Stop comparing the damn car to a decade plus old evo 8 or 9. Compare it to a Evo 10, which is a much more fair and accurate comparison since it's still being sold, has 'modern' safety design and is a current model, like the RS.

You have a small one sided mind.

 

Great, we're back to talking about the weight issue for a car that nemsin hates.

Let's compare the Evo 8 to the Evo I.

The Evo I weighed approximately 2800 lbs.

The Evo VIII weighed approximately 3100 lbs.

Zomg, a 300 lb difference! The Evo VIII is a bloated big of a car! How dare Mitsubishi add 300 lbs over the course of 10 years. That's outrageous. Anybody who buys an Evo VIII over an Evo I isn't a real enthusiast because all true enthusiasts know that weight is the most important factor for a car.

http://strikeengine.com/evo-info-spec

 

Evom likely has more 8/9 owners than X owners. If we want to compare the RS to an Evo 8/9, this is the place to do it.

If you don't want to read posts containing info/comparisons vs. evos, maybe you should be over on http://www.focusrs.org/ instead.

 

All you've done here is deflect his point. Why does it make sense to compare the RS, a 2016 car, to the Evo 8/9, a 2006 or earlier car? We may as well compare cars, weight wise, to cars made in the ****ing 80s.

 

It makes sense because a great many evom members have, and use, their evos (many of which are 8/9's) as the benchmark to judge other affordable awd turbo cars. They do this because they may be considering buying an RS, or even trading their evo in.

The X was not heavy because it added 500lbs of "safety equipment", its largely heavier than earlier generations simply because it is a bigger car.

This is a forum for all mitsubishi cars, not just the X. If I, or others, want to compare older evos to the current crop of ____, then we will. Don't like it? Next thread ---> way.

 

Again, more deflection. You're comparing a brand new car to a 10+ year old car. I agree with razor, the appropriate comparison is to the Evo X.

You can compare the RS to whatever car you want, but that doesn't mean it's a good comparison, or that some of us won't call you out on it. Don't like it? Next thread ---> way.

 

Then feel free to compare it to the X. I do not own a X and I have no intention of buying a X. So that comparison would mean very little to me. I do however own a IX. So how a IX compares to an RS is far more interesting to ME.

If you are going to place arbitrary restrictions on what cars you compare the RS to, then why not compare it only against other domestic cars. The RS wins by default then. Ow wait its made in Germany. I guess its excluded too.

 

Just like you have no intention of ever buying an RS yet you insist on comparing your car to it, me thinks as a means of stroking your fragile ego.

Your restrictions are stupid. The "restrictions" that razor suggested makes actual sense you're comparing a new car to a new car. Not a new car to a 10+ year old car with respect to weight only.

The RS also has more power than the Evo, and a better power to weight ratio.

RS - 9.77 lbs/hp

Evo - 11.23 lbs/hp

Those are using the weights you've quoted.

 

Like I said, I don't really care how it compares to the Evo X. But feel free to explore that if you like.

Using your logic we should only compare it to cars that are currently made. If you are going to make an exception for X's because they are still on lots, then why not a low mileage 9 that is on a dealer lot?

 

I compared it to the Evo 9 above. It has a superior power to weight ratio over the car you own.

The Evo X can still be purchased in a new condition from Mitsubishi dealerships. The Evo 9 cannot. The Evo 9 hasn't been made in more than 10 years.

 

The IX was detuned from the factory and a stock 4G63 is capable of making a reliable 325+whp with just a tune.

There are early reports that the RS is struggling to make advertised power consistently http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...appointed.html

 

So what? I used the stock, advertised numbers for both cars. Now you want to compare a tuned 10+ year old car to a stock 2016 car? Let the stupid, preferential comparisons commence!

 

My point, is RS owners are saying the advertised numbers appear to be BS. Early dyno results are not living up to the Ford marketing hype.

Which is more important, what the manufacturer says, or what dynos actually show?
250hp/290tq repeatably.
290hp/320tq in overboost.
http://www.focusrs.org/forum/9-focus...r-rs-dyno.html

Might want to redo those power to weight calculations.

 

You're taking early speculation and forming a hard conclusion.

You must be truly desperate to prove to yourself that the Evo is the bestest car eva.