How would you even know? Have you ever actually driven the 2016 focus RS? You seem to have unavailable knowledge that the braking system could obviously be much better than it is. Knowledge that only comes from driving the car.

 

As an FYI, Evos have steel rotors as well, as do most cars, minus the fancy $$$ ceramic rotors on Porsches, etc.

Anybody that knows anything about braking systems can tell you that the rears are of much much much much smaller importance than the fronts. The fact that you are stating that "steel rotors" offered on the Ford make it different than others makes me shake my head a little, to be honest.

 

How would I know that Brembo makes better brakes than Ford? Lets call it an educated guess.

 

Why do you keep saying rotors?

 

I'm assuming he meant calipers.

 

The question is not "who makes better brakes", the question is "does the car perform acceptably with the fitted brakes package". You're whining about something that no one knows the answer to.

 

The arguments around this car are just getting absurd.

As an aside, here are some cars (that I know of) that seem to do just fine with an OEM setup of just front Brembo calipers but normal style rear calipers:

Civic Type R and now Type R Turbo

First Generation Focus RS

Second Generation Focus RS

Renault Megane RS

Renault Megane RS Trophy

Citroen DS3

Mini Cooper Works GP

Sensing a trend here?

 

That isn't the question. The question is whether the Focus RS would brake better with Brembo rears. That isn't known, and frankly an educated guess would say no. I doubt the steel calipers are anywhere near the limits of their capabilities.

It appears the marketing gurus at Brembo have won again and made another fanboy.

 

The questions at hand are are the ford steel calipers single piston? Are the rear discs vented? Size of the rotors? What type of pads are speced. The rear does have that fancy clutch brake system will this use the brakes at all?

Ford is known to cut corners. Ford is known to lie about displacment and HP numbers. The new coyote magicly gets more power depending on what truck or car its bolted to. The new diesel had to make 800 ft for marketing etc.

I like the new RS and the idea of it but the evo is a true Evolution of design improvement not just another new product.

 

Ok, cool. I don't see what any of that has to do with the RS, other than the questions on brakes, which would be meaningless info.

 

what some of us are saying is "who cares?". as long as they work they way they are supposed to, they can be made out of fruit cake for all i care. it's all opinion, though. we all have different preferences.

then again, i'd also never put a $7,000 set of Alcon brakes on my car because i don't need it. if someone is building a show car, then i could see the concern.

the only issue i see is anyone interested in paying for this car probably would notice. they are going to know just enough to notice no fancy brakes on the back, but not enough to understand it's okay.

 

I keep seeing people mention this.

You do know there where two Focus RS's before this right?

Generation 2 was better than Generation 1. Generation 3 has AWD while generation 1 and 2 where FWD.

Generation 2 had revo nuckle to help with FWD torque steer compared to generation 1.

That is basically evolution of design through three generations already. What do you think happened from Lancer Evolution 1 to 3? or BMW M3 E30 to E46 or Porsche 911 Classic to 993?

Saying the RS is not an evolution of design is 100% ignorance.

 

Premise: Better brakes will make a car brake better.
Premise: Focus RS is a car.
Premise: Brembo brakes are better than Ford brakes.
Conclusion: A Focus RS will brake better with brembo brakes than with Ford brakes.

 

And your premises are fundamentally flawed. That's what several people are saying.

 

I think this is the root of it all.
It's not necessarily true.