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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 10:31 AM
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I do not like the RS, I openly admit that. I think Ford played it too safe. I also think the Evo will be a better performance platform and have explained why I believe that.

I then asked people that do like it, to explain why. I guess I should have clarified, why do people think it will be a good "performance" car?
So why are you here? If you don't like the RS, why post in a thread about the RS, other than to **** in the punch bowl?
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
There are plenty of people in this thread who have not weighed in. I have read the responses so far. Try again.
You are such a troll. There are plenty of people in this thread that give logical and unbiased input that you just ignore. "Try again."
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
You are such a troll. There are plenty of people in this thread that give logical and unbiased input that you just ignore. "Try again."
I wonder if the first AWD car that had a real center diff with a VCU instead of a locked transfercase (like a 4wd truck) was shunned as not being "full time" AWD...lol
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralliart004
I thought that the wrx and Sti interior and creature comforts were much better than Mitsubishis but to each his own I guess.

I did lots of long trips in both and would definitely say its preferred for me over the evo 8/9 and about par with the X.

The RS will be cheap in a few years then we can all have some fun.
i agree the Subaru interior is better than a ct9a and pretty equal to a x. the RS should be at least as nice, which i'm cool with. added airbags (compared to the ct9a) will a welcomed addition.

Originally Posted by nemsin
I do not like the RS, I openly admit that. I think Ford played it too safe. I also think the Evo will be a better performance platform and have explained why I believe that.

I then asked people that do like it, to explain why. I guess I should have clarified, why do people think it will be a good "performance" car?
but you know why Ford did what they did: demographics and sales numbers. some of us realized that and accept it. it's not a hard-core racer. it's a decent performer (or better, we don't know) that is also comfortable and safe. if you built a car to make money, you would do the same.
every active member in this thread has explained to you why we like it; over and over again. we have also explained why we think it will perform well.


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If ford tried to sell a stripped out **** box to make you happy, people like you would be the only to buy the car. And they would lose a lot of FoRS sales to the Mustang. 99% of people that walk into a dealership aren't looking for a car like the Evo. They're looking for a car that is fun to drive with good power, creature comforts, and (maybe) good handling and brakes. Hell, with how big drag racing is for Evo's, one could argue a lot Evo buyers didn't even care that much about the handling.
i agree with this 100%. in fact, in my whole county (we have a lot of Evos here), there are only about three of us that have built our cars to handle well. the others either hard park at McDonalds or are focused on 1/4mi times. again: demographics. the RS should sell like hotcakes (as opposed to if it were a stripped-out race car).

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So why are you here? If you don't like the RS, why post in a thread about the RS, other than to **** in the punch bowl?
to be fair, it's not a fanboi thread, so i'd imagine we should also welcome criticism, IMO.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:06 PM
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Criticism is fine, and appreciated it, but when you admit to not liking the car, and you're just repeating the same stuff, and making us misinformation to bring the car down, maybe you need to step back and stop posting.

I had an 06 STI. I suppose the interior was nicer than the 2003 Lancer I had, but it wasn't particularly well equipped. It wasn't bad for 2006, but for 2016, it would be considered abysmal.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Criticism is fine, and appreciated it, but when you admit to not liking the car, and you're just repeating the same stuff, and making us misinformation to bring the car down, maybe you need to step back and stop posting.
agreed. opinions are welcome but i don't understand asking for reasoning, getting it, then to keep asking for it. that confuses me LOL.
that's why i ask what kind of answers, exactly, he was looking for.


I had an 06 STI. I suppose the interior was nicer than the 2003 Lancer I had, but it wasn't particularly well equipped. It wasn't bad for 2006, but for 2016, it would be considered abysmal.
also agreed. for the time, it was "okay". luckily, i'm not picky. i find nothing wrong with my '06 Evo Interior LOL. i say "lucky" because finding a quick car with a nice interior can get pricey.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:41 PM
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Or throwing out an argument, having it get rejected, then just changing tunes. It appears that the RS needs to basically obliterate every car out there, while costing next to nothing, to be a "worthy" Evo contender.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Or throwing out an argument, having it get rejected, then just changing tunes. It appears that the RS needs to basically obliterate every car out there, while costing next to nothing, to be a "worthy" Evo contender.
It also needs aluminum control arms..
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Or throwing out an argument, having it get rejected, then just changing tunes. It appears that the RS needs to basically obliterate every car out there, while costing next to nothing, to be a "worthy" Evo contender.
because that's what the Evo did? oh, wait..


i see the argument that the RS has gone soft. compared to what it used to be, i suppose. does the new car do the badge justice? we'll see.

i think it's odd that all these high-performance cars are coming out with BluTooth, leather, navigation, etc... but i'm old-school and the public isn't happy unless a car has "more". so, it is what it is and i'll evaluate it as such.. and as such, i really like the RS.



maybe they will come out with a track version like they the did the GT350r. that should quiet a few people (and be totally awesome at the same time).
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 02:53 PM
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I like the fact that you can have performance, without giving up too much creature comforts. If I want something raw, I'll drive my 1990 Miata with no AC, no ABS, no traction control, and sometimes no roof. When driving to work and back, I want something that won't punish my lower back, won't give me a headache on long drives, and can still get up and move when I want it to.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I like the fact that you can have performance, without giving up too much creature comforts. If I want something raw, I'll drive my 1990 Miata with no AC, no ABS, no traction control, and sometimes no roof. When driving to work and back, I want something that won't punish my lower back, won't give me a headache on long drives, and can still get up and move when I want it to.
You mean you couldn't show up to court after driving your topless Miata through a snowstorm?
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 03:35 PM
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You mean you couldn't show up to court after driving your topless Miata through a snowstorm?
Probably not, but doing donuts in the parking lot after I win would be fun.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
I like the fact that ....When driving to work and back, I want something that won't punish my lower back, won't give me a headache on long drives, and can still get up and move when I want it to.
I'm getting older....had "race cars" to drive around town. I'm over it LOL
The RS sound right up my alley.
And it will probably own most cars in it's price range and slightly above.
Win/win.
The hard-core guys can always strip it down and shave weight.
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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
because that's what the Evo did? oh, wait..


i see the argument that the RS has gone soft. compared to what it used to be, i suppose. does the new car do the badge justice? we'll see.

i think it's odd that all these high-performance cars are coming out with BluTooth, leather, navigation, etc... but i'm old-school and the public isn't happy unless a car has "more". so, it is what it is and i'll evaluate it as such.. and as such, i really like the RS.
My Evo 10 has cruise control, heated leather, bluetooth, sunroof and a bunch of speakers and subwoofer in the trunk.

I love it and it's totally capable on the track.

My Evo 8 had none of that and it got old, more as I got older.

Not to start another internet cry fest, but I'm within 1 sec of my Evo 8 on the same track, with less mods, with my Evo 10. Not green to tracking either, been doing it for 15 years now and instructed for five of those.

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Old Jan 4, 2016 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
My Evo 10 has cruise control, leather, bluetooth, sunroof and a bunch of speakers and subwoofer in the trunk.

I love it and it's totally capable on the track.

My Evo 8 had none of that and it got old, more as I got older.

Not to start another internet cry fest, but I'm within 1 sec of my Evo 8 on the same track, with less mods, with my Evo 10. Not green to tracking either, been doing it for 15 years now and instructed for five of those.
No crying here. If I knew I'd be faster in a X, I'd be all over one.
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