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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 06:25 PM
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Why do I imagine nemsin is the guy at track days with the full Ralliart jacket and hat with Mitsubishi Motorsports and Makinen stickers on his car, but who also makes fun of the Corvette guys wearing Corvette flag hats and Jake Skull racing jackets, all while talking about Mitsubishi "Spirit of Competition" Motorsports all day long to anybody who will listen?
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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Because you gave me a hard time for comparing the RS to a 10yr old evo. So I will change gears and compare it to one of its market competitors. If Ford wants to be the hothatch performance King, it has to step in the ring with the CTR.
Sure...pick any rainy day you want.

In this vid just watch how much fun a Megan 275 has.

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Old Jan 2, 2016 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
Because you gave me a hard time for comparing the RS to a 10yr old evo. So I will change gears and compare it to one of its market competitors. If Ford wants to be the hothatch performance King, it has to step in the ring with the CTR.
I "gave you a hard time" because you grasped at straws, speculated again and again using false or premature assumptions and refused to wiggle when you were challenged; instead you tried to hide behind the "it's my opinion" defence.

The CTR is a different kind of car that also beats the Evo. Like I said, I have no doubt that if the RS did beat the CTR, you'd still have excuses or some tin foil hat theories. The CTR is a track special, at least the version tested was. It was faster than the GTR, various Porsches and Ferraris.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 02:47 PM
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The CTR is a road legal production car. Not a track day special. Try again.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
The CTR is a road legal production car. Not a track day special. Try again.
US won't even be seeing this car till a possible 2017 release as a 2018 model.
More an unknown then the RS is.
Geee...let's bench race stuff that hasn't even been designed yet...K?
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
The CTR is a road legal production car. Not a track day special. Try again.
http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-world-record/

The car that lapped the Nürburgring was a preproduction prototype with parts removed and a roll cage added. It's also Europe only.

I do like how you avoid addressing the fact that the CTR also obliterated the Evo, and the GTR. But please, continue to pretend like the RS needs to beat it to prove that it's a decent car.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 05:34 PM
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I do like how you avoid addressing the fact that the CTR also obliterated the Evo, and the GTR.
And a Porsche 911 Turbo. Those Porsche things don't have any motorsports pedigrees do they?
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 05:39 PM
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And a Porsche 911 Turbo. Those Porsche things don't have any motorsports pedigrees do they?
Probably cause of the steel control arms.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Probably cause of the steel control arms.
I give nemsin a day or less to correct you on that.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nemsin
The CTR is a road legal production car. Not a track day special. Try again.
Not the one that set the 'Ring time.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 05:53 PM
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The 2015/16 Civic Type R has a torsion beam rear too. OMG how can I hard park and talk about motorsports designed suspension with a torsion beam equipped car???

Car cannot be a good performer with that type of suspension!!!!! :P
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 06:01 PM
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The 2015/16 Civic Type R has a torsion beam rear too. OMG how can I hard park and talk about motorsports designed suspension with a torsion beam equipped car???

Car cannot be a good performer with that type of suspension!!!!! :P
And corvettes have....LEAF SPRINGS!
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 06:05 PM
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And corvettes have....LEAF SPRINGS!
That's because Corvettes are not used in motorsports, ever.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 06:19 PM
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Well certainly not the only motorsports that matters for street driving on tarmac; rally racing.
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Old Jan 3, 2016 | 06:24 PM
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I still have not heard why anyone thinks the RS will be a great car.

Racing pedigree? No.
Light weight? No.
Full time awd? No.
Impressive Nürburgring time? No.

Drift button? Yes. Ah that must be it.
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