Are you for real with this reply? HAhah, oh man, again, right over your head. Way over your head.

I wish I could say you're an idiot without getting slapped on the wrist here, so I won't call you an idiot.

Too funny.

 

40 years!!!....begeezis...this can only mean one thing..... my OG status just got upgraded.


That's what I always felt like when I went to Evo car meets.

 

i have a good read for your character, maybe help

"One afternoon a fox was walking through the forest and spotted a bunch of grapes hanging from over a lofty branch.
“Just the thing to quench my thirst,” he thought. Taking a few steps back, the fox jumped and just missed the hanging grapes. Again the fox took a few paces back and tried to reach them but still failed.
Finally, giving up, the fox turned up his nose and said, “They’re probably sour anyway,” and proceeded to walk away."
La Fontaine's fables

 

Only relevance I have about all this today

Happy New Year!

 

All this talk about rally....besides Rob, who the hell actually rallies there car? If you don't, **** up about making a comparison to rally.

 

well its not about rally, about the parts and development the car gets when arrives in the show room. Hence the direct connection to the later stage of these cars as a TUNER car platform.
Unfortunately for many in this forum, these cars are being developed and tested in rally. VS let say the S2000 which has a different but also great back ground or the M3 etc.
So as Razor in his WRC post or the Ford ITSELF using rally as a reference.

that is why I answered for that grey post there.

end of the day this way or the other these cars like the Fiesta, and the focus are do benefit from they rally heritage. And that is why you get your awesome car in the show room. Yes thank for the rally. How much benefits you get that is differs from a class they do run.
You don't have to rally your car to enjoy, and get those benefits from rally.
Saying who cares rally when you talking about rally developed cars , a bit of ignoranat(I am not sure if that is a right word , I don't want to offend here) specially if you do care about the car technical back ground.

 

Your post was interesting and factual....but only as far as the type of racing you mentioned. The Focus RS is proper track car that was designed for racing. Just not the category of racing you mentioned. My car will be raced. It just won't see any gravel while doing so. But your point is well taken.

 

Sure the Focus ST and RS designed for racing, and they are awesome cars. (even when the RS was FWD or RWD only car) I am just pointing out the amount of actual race parts they get from a show room. And why one is get more then the other.
Nothing more nothing less.

 

Do you guys think the whole "Rebirth of an icon" marketing video is an effective way to appeal to potential buyers? Is rally big enough here in the States that people actually know about what the RS used to be?
While there will be people like Robevo that know more about rally and history of the RS, I dont know if buyers will care about that too much.

 

neh rally commercials and so will not make any impact for sales in the states. Just look at this thread .

I think the drift button will do more for sales, then mention many World rally championships .
In fact I would do only drifting videos and just drop the rally videos. Gymkana will do more then any Latvala video. That says a lot though.


But all and all the real public road test happens only in rally, where we drive.

 

Sir, the Evo may have more rally spec parts "...from the showroom...", but that's not the same as "...the amount of actual race parts..." Surely you see the distinction. The RS (although the name suggests otherwise) is designed to race on a track. The "race parts" it has are designed for that purpose. The technology in the race parts of the RS enjoy nearly a decade of technological advancements that the technology in the Evo does not. The Evo has certainly met the future in the RS. And from the showroom floor to the track, against the RS, the Evo has no future. Mitsubishi understands that. I think you do as well.

All that being said, the Evo has been a great car, and like many great cars, there will be a place for it. But, for warranteed cars on a track, that place will be behind the RS.

 

You're warranty is probably already void simply because you talked about taking it to the track... A lot of Evo owners found this out the hard way back in the day. Bone stock cars getting warranty claims denied because Mitsu found pics of the car being AutoX'd or tracked

 

Let's get this part out of the way first, the reason this thread is so popular: The ability to buy a new Evo is coming to an end in the next couple of months. Although many people won't need another car for several years, it's natural to think about what's next. The release of the RS is timely, but I'm not sold on the car, and the part of your post I bolded above is why.

The formula to go fast around a track hasn't changed in well over 50 years. The one thing that has advanced considerably, even in the last ten years, is tire tech. Fortunately, tires are a wear item, and anyone can upgrade into something better. The crown jewel in the fast car hat for the RS is the definitely the Pilot Sport Cup 2 option.

The next thing it has is a 50+ horsepower advantage over the competition.

For stock "race part advantages", that's it. The other advances are detriments to me as a potential buyer. Let's look at them.

The AWD system defaults in FWD mode- Great for fuel economy, but GKN has is set up where no extra power can go to the rear wheels. Man, that sucks if you want an extra 50-100 HP, since AWD performance cars can easily utilize that and beyond.

To hit Ford's target cost, the RS also has an open front differential that slows one tire by utilizing the brakes. I wish it had an LSD option instead.

Direct injection. There are still more dark sides to this than bright for a car modifying enthusiast. It's far from being fully realized, but it's not to the point I'd want it. Ford USA knows this well, as their bread and butter performance car still uses port injection.

 

#RobevoDerailsAllTheThreads #RallyLifeMustBeOnlyLife

Basically. :P

 

The formula to go fast hasn't changed in 100 years, but the technology behind cars has. The GTR is a testament to this. It should not be as fast as it us given its paper, "go fast" stats. It can do things other car can't.

The same is true of the Evo or the RS. The Evo shouldn't be as fast as it is but technology makes up for its on paper deficiencies. The RS uses modern technology to go fast. I don't why Evo owners of all people are so unwilling to embrace technology as a go fast contributor when their favoured car has benefitted for years on technological solutions to old racing problems.