so why this is doesn't happen for an example with 4 inch IC on stock turbos for an example in the Evo? Or just I don't know about it?

 

Why isn't an unusual problem happening on a completely different car? I think the answer to that is pretty obvious.

 

It's a completely different car? With completely different....everything....?

 

yeah, thats exactly what I'm thinking... I mean where inside the intercooler does the water even get a chance to pool up enough from condensation? wouldn't it just get blown into the engine as you drive? its not like its a big laggy turbo that you can drive anywhere without going into boost... it sounds to me like its a horrible intercooler design from an internal flow standpoint that water even has a chance to pool up anywhere. the blanking plate is a cheap last minute "we don't have time (and/or money) to redesign the intercooler" bandaide fix and has no place on a 35+k car

 

I'm gonna side with Rob on this. the basics of turbo's and intercoolers is the same. Like I said in my post above, its more of a poor internal flow design issue rather than the "our intercooler is too efficient" bs line

 

The basics may be the same, but that's like saying anatomy from one person to the other is basically the same, so why do some people die when they eat a peanut?

 

physics are the same, perhaps designs are not.

The question still stands, what can be that much different, if you don't even use the OEM IC ( in fact the OEM IC is actually really efficient on the Evo, and can support bigger turbos too efficiently).

The 4 inch even the 3.5 inch is SO much larger then the factory turbo needs ( hence the theoretically much much better cooling) Why this isn't an issue on the EVo or the STI etc?

What can be a problem? Or it does exits in the Evo /STI? other cars like GTI etc
Or I just never heard of it.

Most I heard is the oil residue after long period of time , but that is another deal.

Real legit question, and I would dlike to know. "I told you so " from experts as Amby wont cut it . I need some educated info. I am interested.
Just a bigger size alone can do that? why isn't (if inst do it) in other Turbo cars is not an issue.

How much water it makes , since some small amount of water turbo engine easily get rid of.

 

what do you think about medicines ? LOL

"Defective" bodys who cant tolerate example peanuts are not the standard neither the desired case you want to have or follow. ( I don't want to sound mean or Politically incorrect so sorry if sounds that way)
But with a same treatment or medicine, problem can be solved, if we know what is causing the problem.

Metal plate sounds more like a temporary solution for me, specially from the shelfs, then finding the roots of the problem, if that is a design problem.

 

You're comparing apples to oranges. Yes, the physics is the same but last I checked, nobody here is an expert on the subject, and high school or undergrad physics really won't cut it if you're trying to explain something as complex as why water vapour build up occurs in one microenvironment but not the other. Are people suggesting there's some kind of conspiracy or something? It is what is, for some reason, the Ford intercooler design led to water vapour. The fact the Evo doesn't suffer this problem is irrelevant; different engine, different layout, different intercooler design, etc.

 

well if its an IC design problem that is an easy fix

Montune have options so as Cosworth .

You got to love the necessary modifications . Easy to explain to your partner.

Honey we NEED this

 

that is cool, but its not EVo vs RS thing . Not even STI vs RS or older RS vs new RS etc...

Its about 2016 RS thing. I love the car and I want to know as much as I can. Maybe our sharp friend Razor will put some opinion into this. I would listen to that one. ( no offense)

 

the existence of water vapor / condensation isn't the problem, the problem is that the water has a chance too pool up somewhere in the system instead of blown into the engine as condensation occurs and water appears. the internal flow of the intercooler system (turbo outlet to throttle body) should be so that when condensation does occur, the water doesn't get a chance to pool up in such a quantity that it will cause an issue if it all goes into the engine at once.

 

it might not be as easy to fix as just a new intercooler. if its an issue of where the outlet on the intercooler is it may require re-routing the IC piping... and underhood space isn't exactly a luxury in modern cars. it sounds like it could be a pricey fix...

I'm just hoping that panel thing is easy to remove. that way if you do stay stock, you can pull the panel out when you're at the track and on full throttle all the time, and then put it back in on the street where there's lots of part throttle driving...

ps.
my theory is it pools up somewhere during regular driving, and then when you go full throttle, all that water gets pushed into the engine all at once and causes and issue. thats the only plausible explanation I was able to think of. cause minimal amounts of water in the intake charge isn't an issue.

 

Yet people have again invoked the Evo, including you:

 

we can talk about apples and oranges, but in my opinion this is not that case.
We talking about an internal combustion engine with a turbo charger and intercooler, even using a same fossil grade fuel. Nothing new here and a same principals and basic designs - physics - Bernoulli principals etc etc applies here.

There are things should and things shouldn't happen here. Its simple is that.

So if that much water collects in the system actually hurts ( Ford statement) the engine performance, and actually makes it run dangerous, something is not right.
They might need a new IC or other design here. Its sad since the car not even on the market yet, never mind even get modified yet.

Or maybe it happens all the time but with other cars doesn't cause any problem.
For me when you see temporary "power boost" its always a warning sign.
In my mind the car is not ready for that power, other wise they wouldn't make it limited period of time only. (based on my racing experience, which really can be apples and oranges )

press on guys