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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 06:17 PM
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But it's not an Evo, Brian. Using basic physics, explain why a car you've never seen does things that the Evo doesn't do. But don't compare the Evo to the RS.
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
But it's not an Evo, Brian. Using basic physics, explain why a car you've never seen does things that the Evo doesn't do. But don't compare the Evo to the RS.
I'm starting to see what that quote in your sig means... I give up
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
Now the question is only why?
probably because they over-engineered the IC. maybe someone's math was off. maybe they thought it was a good idea at the time, but didn't forsee the condensation problem.
blocking off a bit of the IC is a heck of a lot better/easier/cheaper than re-engineering the entire part, along with the subsequent testing.

being able to remove the plate and make it more efficient is just a lucky bonus for anyone who decides to up the boost.

all speculation, of course.

**edit: oops. i just reposted what someone else did LOL. so, +1

Last edited by kaj; Jan 21, 2016 at 06:43 PM. Reason: repost.
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by razorlab
Oh cool, you guys found a new thing about the car to argue about.

I'm so surprised.
i was asking a simple question, but your sidekick brings the usual story.

i guess then is no answer here then lol
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 06:58 PM
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You were asking a complicated question that only people who engineered the car can answer. How do you honestly expect people to answer a question regarding the technical aspects of a car that hasn't even been released yet?
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kaj
probably because they over-engineered the IC. maybe someone's math was off. maybe they thought it was a good idea at the time, but didn't forsee the condensation problem.
blocking off a bit of the IC is a heck of a lot better/easier/cheaper than re-engineering the entire part, along with the subsequent testing.

being able to remove the plate and make it more efficient is just a lucky bonus for anyone who decides to up the boost.

all speculation, of course.

**edit: oops. i just reposted what someone else did LOL. so, +1
oh come on man.. I didn't expect this out of you... the problem isn't the fact that the intercooler is cooling to well, its that the internal flow (be it intercooler or piping) is oriented in such a way that water can pool up somewhere inside.
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 08:48 PM
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Ah so now the Ford engineers can't be trusted and instead we should listen to some random forum people who haven't seen the car, let alone worked on it.
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Old Jan 21, 2016 | 09:36 PM
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oh come on man.. I didn't expect this out of you... the problem isn't the fact that the intercooler is cooling to well, its that the internal flow (be it intercooler or piping) is oriented in such a way that water can pool up somewhere inside.
My point was that we know nothing about the car, not that I'm actually trying to diagnose a car that we....well....know nothing about. LOL

Sounds like you have it figured out, so kudos. Personally, I have no clue which why I said "probably", maybe", and "speculation".
Meh. Who knows?
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by kaj
My point was that we know nothing about the car, not that I'm actually trying to diagnose a car that we....well....know nothing about. LOL

Sounds like you have it figured out, so kudos. Personally, I have no clue which why I said "probably", maybe", and "speculation".
Meh. Who knows?
Yup and we are about to roll into page 146 with the car we know nothing about.

Where is Emesis???....or does he just come out during the lulls
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 05:21 AM
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An "over engineered" intercooler on a production car that 'cools too much' so much in fact that it produces condensation and ultimately pools in the intercooler. Interesting.

Then compared to peanut allergies, hmmmmm I thought the fix for that was epinephrine and Benadryl because not everyone dies!

So this car is completely awesome and absolutely garbage all at the same time, pretty typical ford performance.
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 07:20 AM
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Yeahhh sweet, so basically if you live in Washington state you get to run it without a plate 2 months a year if your lucky.
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 07:30 AM
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The issue of water pooling likely comes only from people who never push the car. Even on the Ecoboost F150's that had the problem, not everyone had the issues. I would venture to say that people who never towed or gave the truck some throttle are the ones that were more likely to have the issue. I can't see water building up to a significant amount if someone lets the car stretch its legs every now and then.
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
You were asking a complicated question that only people who engineered the car can answer. How do you honestly expect people to answer a question regarding the technical aspects of a car that hasn't even been released yet?
Oh now we give credit to engineers, but when Ford says the intercooler had to be modified because it could cause issues you say its now a big deal lol Eh, what do those engineers know anyways
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 07:54 AM
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I'm saying who knows more about the car, the people who designed it, or people who have never even seen the damn thing?
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Old Jan 22, 2016 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by letsgetthisdone
The issue of water pooling likely comes only from people who never push the car. Even on the Ecoboost F150's that had the problem, not everyone had the issues. I would venture to say that people who never towed or gave the truck some throttle are the ones that were more likely to have the issue. I can't see water building up to a significant amount if someone lets the car stretch its legs every now and then.
kinda like the old-school Ferrari "carburetor cleaning" LOL.
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