track car suggestions / discussion
naw, just 8/9. X is to heavy. why do you think I'll regret getting an 8 over a 9? isn't the only difference a slighty better turbo and MIVEC on intake and exhaust vs just intake?
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...head-tech.html.
Seats and front bumper are also nicer on the 9.
Evo 8 = No Mivec
Evo 9 = Mivec on just intake
Evo 10 = Mivec on both
You'll be able to find a 05 Evo 8 way easier than a 9 for less money. Evo 8 5 spd is also better on track than Evo 9.
As long as you get a 05 Evo 8, you will be good. 05 = larger stock turbo, front LSD and ACD. 05 also has better head castings than 03/04 and some other little differences.
For a track car, Mivec on just intake is whatever, you will be in the higher RPM band where it doesn't really matter anyway.
Last edited by razorlab; Oct 12, 2015 at 05:19 PM.
Actually be honest, buy the Evo which is cheaper, if they are aprox. are close condition.
If the IX is cheaper get a IX if the X get a X. If the VIII is so much cheaper get the VIII.( if its still at least equal condition vs the others.)
From there you should be pretty equal about build pricing vise . The weight you think is a trade off vs IX, the X actually out shines the CT9A in preatty much any other segments.
Eventually you ending up at the same performance level.
Iwould say dont think it like Evo IX or X., think about it as an EVO. Get a cheaper one or the one has a better condition - shape and has a lower mileage.
I cant speak from drag racing or AutoX point of view so i leave that alone, but like circuit racing - Time Trials - Hill Climbs - rally - RallyX the X is actually better project car.
That is my opinion.
By the way you can buy actually cheap STI 's too , which maybe make sense if you find one for a great price, but the maintenance will be higher, and the car usually not as reliable as the Evo. But i would say the fan is similar and they are fun.
Last edited by Robevo RS; Oct 12, 2015 at 05:44 PM.
Evo 8 = No Mivec
Evo 9 = Mivec on just intake
Evo 10 = Mivec on both
You'll be able to find a 05 Evo 8 way easier than a 9 for less money. Evo 8 5 spd is also better on track than Evo 9.
As long as you get a 05 Evo 8, you will be good. 05 = larger stock turbo, front LSD and ACD. 05 also has better head castings than 03/04 and some other little differences.
For a track car, Mivec on just intake is whatever, you will be in the higher RPM band where it doesn't really matter anyway.
Evo 9 = Mivec on just intake
Evo 10 = Mivec on both
You'll be able to find a 05 Evo 8 way easier than a 9 for less money. Evo 8 5 spd is also better on track than Evo 9.
As long as you get a 05 Evo 8, you will be good. 05 = larger stock turbo, front LSD and ACD. 05 also has better head castings than 03/04 and some other little differences.
For a track car, Mivec on just intake is whatever, you will be in the higher RPM band where it doesn't really matter anyway.
describe it how much you think really heavier is the track evo X vs IX, and if , how much it really matters for you? ( price wise). Read the CT9A vs CZ4A tread in evo IX vs X. From the last page and back.
Actually be honest, buy the Evo which is cheaper, if they are aprox. are close condition.
If the IX is cheaper get a IX if the X get a X. If the VIII is so much cheaper get the VIII.( if its still at least equal condition vs the others.)
From there you should be pretty equal about build pricing vise . The weight you think is a trade off vs IX, the X actually out shines the CT9A in preatty much any other segments.
Eventually you ending up at the same performance level.
Iwould say dont think it like Evo IX or X., think about it as an EVO. Get a cheaper one or the one has a better condition - shape and has a lower mileage.
I cant speak from drag racing or AutoX point of view so i leave that alone, but like circuit racing - Time Trials - Hill Climbs - rally - RallyX the X is actually better project car.
That is my opinion.
By the way you can buy actually cheap STI 's too , which maybe make sense if you find one for a great price, but the maintenance will be higher, and the car usually not as reliable as the Evo. But i would say the fan is similar and they are fun.
Actually be honest, buy the Evo which is cheaper, if they are aprox. are close condition.
If the IX is cheaper get a IX if the X get a X. If the VIII is so much cheaper get the VIII.( if its still at least equal condition vs the others.)
From there you should be pretty equal about build pricing vise . The weight you think is a trade off vs IX, the X actually out shines the CT9A in preatty much any other segments.
Eventually you ending up at the same performance level.
Iwould say dont think it like Evo IX or X., think about it as an EVO. Get a cheaper one or the one has a better condition - shape and has a lower mileage.
I cant speak from drag racing or AutoX point of view so i leave that alone, but like circuit racing - Time Trials - Hill Climbs - rally - RallyX the X is actually better project car.
That is my opinion.
By the way you can buy actually cheap STI 's too , which maybe make sense if you find one for a great price, but the maintenance will be higher, and the car usually not as reliable as the Evo. But i would say the fan is similar and they are fun.
the 8/9 is 2-300 lb lighter, which means slower wear on consumables. it can also run 17" wheels, and 17" tires are considerably cheaper than 18's. I also can use the RPF1's I had on my RSX for the 8/9 (17x9 +35) which I'd have to sell and buy 18's for the X. also the X needs a pretty aggressive offset compared to stock to fill out those wheel wells, an offset close to stock doesn't look that good. appearance isn't that big of a deal to me for a track car, but it still counts. and aggressive offsets cause lots of negative feed back through the wheel due to the increased scrub radius. I had 18x9.5 +22 on mine (which is still not all that aggressive for the X) and I hated what it did to steering feel and follow ruts and all that.
flash tuning is also much more developed for the 8/9 than for the X. biggest one for me being map switching without having to flash the ecu as I plan to have a track and street tune. or does the X also have map switching now?
I'm also not the biggest fan of the seating position of the X, steering wheel is too far away, I have to adjust my seating position to get into 5th gear... the 8/9 fits me better...
and I already had an X, so thats worth a little bit. I like trying new cars.
and lastly price. a 9 and X might be comparable, but there are plenty of 8's out there a decent bit cheaper than those and thats really what I'm aiming for.
can you link me to the thread you're talking about?
right now its mostly between an evo 8 and s2k for me. mostly cause I can buy an s2k, keep it for a year, and sell it for the same amount. evo's are pretty good at keeping their value, but they have been dropping slowly, where as s2k's actually went up a bit in the last few years
Wait, what? Are you like 3 feet tall?