Noize

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Ha! That's our own little Coco standing up for Everyman/Everywoman. Excellent stuff.

kaj

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Not surprised. Dealerships are all about making an extra dollar above all else. That's business... the difference is, they are willing to bend laws and rules to do it, without even a hint of integrity. They will do anything for a buck. It's embarrassing.
I used to do advertising for dealerships in my area and saw it all first-hand. They are all shady and will take advantage of every single customer they get.
I'm glad to see this particular dealership was pressured into doing the right thing. I get their side of it, though.. that car would bring in a ton of foot traffic. But they messed up, so suck it up.
I bet someone got absolutely reamed.

LetsGetThisDone

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MSRP is similar to "list" price when buying parts. No one sells parts over list price. MSRP is suggested in that it can be sold less. Mark up is retarded. Ask all the dealers with FoRS's sitting on the lot still with a $10k mark up.

nemsin

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Fact remains dealers markup cars whenever they think the market will bear it. It is accepted business practice. In your parts example, are you considering rare/hard to find parts. Try restoring an old car and try to pay list price. Products are worth whatever someone is willing to pay. Or would you sell me your evo for KBB value?

LetsGetThisDone

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As has been stated before, I wonder how the OEM's feel about dealers adding money for a car they worked on for years to meet performance and pricing requirements. If they wanted the car to sell at $40k, it would probably be a much different vehicle.

nemsin

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Honda controls the supply, so they have more control over the market than the dealerships. Dealers would have a hard time justifying a markup if Honda makes a ton of them.

moparfan

Some CTR transmission development choices.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars...-transmission/

4b11slayer

I dont like all the aero stuff. The interior looks awesome. Only front brembos? Does anyone know if its a regular k series or did they forge the block?

kaj

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It's a shame the aero actually works... but hopefully someone will come up with an even better option, soon. Something cleaner.

Doesn't need Brembos in the rear.

I'm 99.9% sure the engine doesn't contain forged internals.

kyoo

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yea I'm not crazy ab the front only brembos. like come on. go all or nothing

kaj

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I wouldn't want to pay extra for a part I don't need. The car is expensive enough, IMO.
I'm sure the car show guys will find something that fits.
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WarmMilk

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aero is functional, makes real downforce... but lets be honest, the car was kinda on the ugly side even before the aero was added, just look at a regular 2017 Civic

I don't mind the rear's not being Brembo's, but I'd at least like to see a fixed caliper. looks pretty lame having a fixed caliper in front and sliding caliper in the rear.

I don't know if its even a K series anymore, it seams different enough that it could be a different engine now, but then again it could just be a modified K. I'm still annoyed that only the exhaust cam has the extra VTEC lobe...

moparfan

Car & Driver instrumented test

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-honda-civic-type-r-test-review

revhappy

The Civic Type R beat the Focus RS without the Cup2s based on objective numbers (with the obvious caveat of differing conditions on different test days) except for the AWD launch advantage.

Braking, skid pad and even trap speeds were impressive.

I would love to see some comparison tests on road courses.

WarmMilk

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0-60 in 4.9... with fwd... thats what the C5 vette did...