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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 07:07 AM
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That's funny. I just read that Kobay had resigned himself to not having a ride. This is one websites opinion against another's. Ken, I think you fail in understanding that your beloved Kobay is done unless a rabbit can be pulled out of the hat and he can score the FI ride.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 08:46 AM
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Force India leading! Woah.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 10:00 AM
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Hulkenberg killed his chance at ever driving for McLaren, what a dumb pass.

and apparently, "Kimi doesn't know what he's doing."
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 10:04 AM
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Hell of a race today. Congrats to Vettel and Redbull they fought hard this year.
Sad to see F1 leave Speed....

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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 10:53 AM
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Fangio, Schumacher, Vettel. Haters will hate, Vettel will dominate!!!


Webber needs to be canned from Red Bull for that first turn attempted pass on Vettel. That female dog needs to learn to be a team player like Massa. He needs to understand his only job with Red Bull is to make sure they win the constructors title and that Vettel wins the championship.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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Yes, Vettel and Red Bull win the championship!

What a race. All the drama of a good mystery novel. Who would have ever thought that Seb would be almost taken out at the beginning of the race? Who would have thought that Massa would have such a brilliant start? We all knew Fred would bolt to the front and his passing was magnificent, a thing of beauty.

Seb's drive to the front was classic. As for his teammate, what a joke. Webber even made it clear that he was not going to help Seb in the race. What a jerk. Hamilton and Button help each other. Massa certainly helps Alonso, but Webber, the egotist, does the drive for himself, not for the team. But in the end, Vettel wins the championship and made such a magnificent comeback in the rain, this should silence his detractors that he can't race in the rain.

In the end, it was dang close, wasn't it? Could anyone ask for more excitement than this race? It has been an exciting year. Sadly, Speed is done and now all of us need to hope and pray that NBC can pick up the ball and run with it next year.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 11:45 AM
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Im disappointed to see F1 and speed depart. Just as always I enjoy good competition..

I wish speed put on more autoracing that wasnt oval. FIA GT especially.

Rain bit hamilton for sure even if it wasnt his doing, but I dont see the need for the drive thru for the perp! That was definitely a racing quirk.

I cant see 2013!
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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This should put a smile on my friend Ken's face: I think RB should fire Webber on the spot for his assinine move that almost took Seb out of the race. Plus, Webber's comment that he would not help Seb out in the race, Webber should be dismissed and paid to leave the team.

With that vacancy, I say put Kobay into Webber's seat. Kobay would be a much better teammate and we could once and for all find out how good a driver that he is. It would be a golden opportunity for Kobay and if he could bring money to help offset Webber's salary, how awesome would that be? I know the idea sounds far fetched, but I am a hopeless romantic who believes in miracles. Please RB, fire Webber, hire Kobay and have a great 2013 season.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 12:19 PM
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 12:28 PM
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Congrats to Vettel. I was definitely pulling for Alonso this year but he just didn't have enough. Very nice of Schumi on his last race to fill in for Wannabe-Webber and actually help Vettel to the win by letting him pass, I've always liked how Schumi has acted as a mentor to Vettel, no doubt he's learned a lot from the 7 time world champ.

Webber has seriously got to be fired from Red Bull after this, what an idiot of a teammate, how butthurt do you have to be? Clearly you have been dominated by Vettel for 3 years in a row, its time to realize your THE number 2 driver.

Speaking of number 2 drivers how amazing has Massa been in the last half of the season? He's back to his old ways, I honestly wouldn't count him out of the championship for next year if Ferrari delivers a good car and he continues to drive the way he is, he's definitely been faster than Alonso in these last few races.

Caterham takes 10th place from Marussia as well

Gotta say this has been a great year for F1, can't wait until next year!
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by xVforVelocityx
Congrats to Vettel. I was definitely pulling for Alonso this year but he just didn't have enough. Very nice of Schumi on his last race to fill in for Wannabe-Webber and actually help Vettel to the win by letting him pass, I've always liked how Schumi has acted as a mentor to Vettel, no doubt he's learned a lot from the 7 time world champ.

Webber has seriously got to be fired from Red Bull after this, what an idiot of a teammate, how butthurt do you have to be? Clearly you have been dominated by Vettel for 3 years in a row, its time to realize your THE number 2 driver.

Speaking of number 2 drivers how amazing has Massa been in the last half of the season? He's back to his old ways, I honestly wouldn't count him out of the championship for next year if Ferrari delivers a good car and he continues to drive the way he is, he's definitely been faster than Alonso in these last few races.

Caterham takes 10th place from Marussia as well

Gotta say this has been a great year for F1, can't wait until next year!
Thank you my friend. Well said. Yes, Schumi is a class act. Just imagine if he had been in the RB from 2010 until now. We might have seen much better results. Away with Webber I say. As for Massa, watch out for next year when it is a new season. I would love to see him dominate Fred. Well, the long wait now until next March. How can we all bear it?
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 01:17 PM
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What a wonderful, fantastic brilliant race and season.

A well deserved WDC win for Seb. He is now officially a legend.

Speaking of deserving a WDC, as for poor Fernando; damn how many times can a guy get his heart broken like this?

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My man Kimi did an absolutely valiant job this season and completed 100% of laps. What a performance, all while delivering comedic gold or just taking engine failures and not giving a ****:

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Of course Shumi will retire still having an unbelievable record. He will be missed:

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Overall a brilliant season. Will watch again when the review DVD comes out.

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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 04:19 PM
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What a race, what a season! The final 3 races are probably the best I've seen in a long time..
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 08:06 PM
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Wow, what a crazy race!!! CONGRATS to Vettel on going three in a row! Some thoughts on the race:

to Ferrari for trying to win on technicalities (i.e., having Vettel investigated for passing under yellow, Alonso's yammering about a safety car, etc.).

to the stewards on this one overall, specifically:

to the suspicious timing of the safety car (reeks of Ferrari favoritism)

on not penalizing Vettel for his first lap incident, but then whacking Hulkenberg for a drive-through (the drive-through also reeks of Ferrari favors being cashed in)

Kudos to Vettel keeping his cool. Pretty amazing that his car held together the whole race.

Props to Schumi for letting Vettel pass. Anyone notice that Kobayashi didn't quite get the same treatment a couple laps later? LOL.

Meh to Webber. He did let Vettel through, but IMO could've done more to help. I agree that given the driver's market right now, there are potentially better options out there. Heck, if they don't want Kobay, they may want to look at Alguesari...

@ Kimi for driving on the old circuit, realizing it was a dead-end and then turning his Lotus into a rally machine to get back on track. Truly epic.

props to Massa. He was clearly faster than Alonso, but was once again the consummate teammate. Hey Webbo, you takin' notes?

...and Petrov saves Caterham with a P11. Wow? Whodathunkit?

Last, but not least. Alonso has now lost more championships in the last race than he's won - he's becoming quite proficient at being the bridesmaid, isn't he?

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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 10:32 PM
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What an EPIC race! Totally awesome finale' to a back and forth season. Great job by Vettel on taking the driver's championship.

So how about "The Hulk" leading most of the race?!?! I think David Hobbs best said it (as I have been saying), Hulk deserved the seat at McLaren instead of Sergio. As for drive through penalty the Hulk got, I think it was BS, even though I was cheering for Hamilton. Poor guy had another unlucky break.

IMHO, it was just a racing incident and he didn't deserve the drive through. But I also understand why he got it, taking out Hami had major constructors ranking implications, which is this case was millions of $s. If Hami and Button had finished in the top 3, McLaren would've passed Ferrari in the constructor's ranking and taken #2.

I couldn't help but keep hoping for more rain (aka the great equalizer) as it got late in the race.
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