Yes the starter maps are speed density and if they work with your stock ecu they should work with the 1500 just fine. You should only need one expander box at most if you're using a 1500. Channels can be reconfigured for many different things.

The way the jumper harness is setup you can wire stuff into the extra stuff connector which won't have any interface with the factory ECU.

I want to say I was right around $2k all said and done for my 1500, can expander, WB02 and a rotary trim.

Motec M vs. Haltech Elite -- Which has a more user-friendly, intuitive interface? Which has more online support in the community?

About equal on popularity so there's tons of threads out there for both. Haltec would be technically easier to learn faster, where as Motec would allow those with knowledge already to dial in much better. Evo vs Porsche. While and Evo can be made to seem as good, it'll never actually be AS Good. I decided it's just time to cut my teeth on the best rather then assume I'd get what I needed with H.

first off, full disclaimer. As most of you know, im sponsored by haltech. Therefore i am aligned to their products.

However, as a professional in the motorsport industry and a top sim racer in NZ ive had alot of exposure to Motec also so feel like i can offer a somewhat unbiased opinion.

first off, Haltech. Very user friendly especially if your the DIY kinda guy.

setting up custom inputs and channels is a walk in the park: it even tells you what colour wire is for what. You can then opt to print a custom wiring diagram also for fault finding.
99% of functions have a help box which explains what each button and setting does if you hover over it which is really helpful.
the user interface is really good also.
The biggest downside to Haltech is you cant rename ur inputs so they make sense to you

Motec is also a great product. The biggest barrier to motec is the price, u need to buy individual modules which makes it very expensive if your going all out.

however motec telemetry is next to none.

motec is in the next band of products but you will spend more also.

end of the day comes down to what ur willing to spend

The new Haltech Nexus R5 looks great

Except for the $4K price tag. At least it comes with built-in wideband controllers and PDM. Still tough to justify over a 1500 or 2500.

Would be nice to see some more competition in the ECU space. The MaxxECU company mentioned on page 1 of this thread looks like they're taking a run at it.

We have been using Emtron here at the shop. You guys might want to look into it. No PnP options for the Evo though.

Looks like they do:

https://emtron.world/product/evo-iv-viii-plugin-ecu/

https://emtron.world/product/evo-ix-plugin-ecu/

https://emtron.world/product/mitsubi...mtron-kv8-kit/

Was about to say, Emtron def has PnP for the 8/9.

I have a super nice boomslang jumper harness for an Infinity at the shop that customer backed out on me on. Debating just tossing an Infinity in my car. Wish it didn't need all the trigger wheels messed with.

Looks like MaxxECU has a full PnP now for CT9A.

https://www.maxxecu.com/products/plu...ishi_evo_eight

honestly all comes down to budget at the end of the day. Theres different options based on budget. If you can afford Motec then thats the holy grail, if you cant afford that then Emtron is probably the best, If thats not in your budget then haltech/link is where you are. If you cant afford that then your looking at modified maps for stock ecu

I'd be interested in seeing some detailed comparisons of the actual features and software and the different levels. I know they have different price points, but what I am actually giving up by using a Haltech over a Motec if I'm not using custom firmware or other advanced features?

When it comes to out of the box software (e.g. not using JRR custom firmware on the MoTeC), is there really any difference?

Talking with ER, the Motec is consistent and reliable beyond every system they've used. The notable situation is data collection there is never an issue with motec, it will collect all the data or so Im told by Myles.

And then with Motec theres a huge amount of flexibility in creating table and maps for whatever you want. So in my case with wanting to run ACD thru the ECU so I can log all the things together I can create the maps that work for me. But there will be steep learning curves and mistakes made Im sure.

Honestly, If it werent for ACD I would probably have gone Haltech. But this is my forever car (even if I cheat with other things....) so I wanted a forever ECU. (I know people say they'll never sell, but unless I need to fee the family, wife would never let me sell it)

Haltech for me, but as Dallas said, if my car had ACD I may be more inclined to look elsewhere. I imagine there's a way to make the Haltech manage the ACD, it should be able to log no problem but it's just a lot easier to go with a solution that already has everything figured out and there's a lot less leg work for you to do.

For me one of the big appeals going with Haltech was the ability to upgrade to an R5 PDM/ECU without having to rewire the car. Also, Haltech has a huge community user base with tons of shared knowledge and their customer support is pretty fantastic.

Where I stand is if my car had ACD:
1. Emtron
2. Motec
3. Haltech

For non ACD:
1. Haltech
2. Emtron
3. Motec

The Motec stuff is no doubt very nice, but it's hard to argue against Emtron when pretty much every single top team in Oceania time attack (Tilton, MCA, RP968, etc.) run Emtron setups.

If you're widening your scope past our borders, nobody's mentioned things like GEMS which has ruled our cars for what they were made to do in Rally.

For most people I assume it comes down to whatever their preferred tuner is familiar with. For those of us who are adventurous (dumb?) enough to try to self-tune, it's a harder choice.

I'm still leaning toward Motec with the JRR firmware as what looks to be the most tailor-made option for our cars. Not cheap, though.

I'll have to check out the Emtron software and see how it looks. I see KV8s pop up on eBay every once in a while.