Does Emtron require different trigger wheels?

I think it can run OEM as well.

Yea i think more geared for people with budgets. The licences are tied to the vehicle rather than the tuner. So each vehicle has to have a unique licence for each module. Which costs more than the ecu generally once you pay for pro logging and launch control modules etc etc etc.

But yea like you said i guess if a pro tuner was building a car for somebody and just gave a lump sum cost to the person paying the bills including all the licences then wham done. but for people like us that do 1 thing at a time its a bit of a waste of time.

Their licensing model confused the **** out of me when I was looking into this. Either it was you needed a developer license and developer ecu's and that was like adding 5 or so grand onto what ever it would have cost otherwise, or it was you just needed a developer ecu and that added like 3 grand. TBH I don't recall exactly so if anyone is looking into this don't take my word for it, and if anyone does know and wants to explain the licensing scheme that would be awesome.

You buy the ECU, which is just hardware box.. no OS if you will draw the analogy with the PC world. Then you buy the M1 package, which is the software part. You can get generic packages from motec, in two different levels of complexity and price, GPA and GPR... those two differ in price and in the features, like traction control, support for sequential shifting (gear change shift cut), anti lag, etc. There are some specific GPA/GPR diesel or rotary packages, but basically there are two different ecu "operating systems" available, if you will.
Then you decide how much money you want to spend on logging, as you can buy logging licences, as there are 3 levels of logging, differing in number of channels and sample rate. So, basically you get all the hardware capability, that you just "open up" by buying licences,... no need to upgrade to better hardware.. just enable what you need... by paying for licences, of course.

But, you can also go to Motec developers, and get custom "packages" from them. Those are based on the motec GPA / GPR packages but customised to the engine. For example, you can get the John reed racing Mitsubishi evo package that is built for our cars and locked to evo sensor plate (i.e. works only with original sensor plate). DUe to that he can offer a package that has all the features of more expensive GPR package, plus additional features, at a lower price. JRR M1 package has full DBW support and can also run ACD control direct from the ecu.. which is interesting... plus much more...

sure, if you want to write your own code.. you need developer ecu and licence, but if you just want to run custom package, it is not that expensive.. works on ordinary M1 ecu

Thanks for that break down. Writing your own code is what interested me about the motec. All those development licenses are fine if you're planning on selling a bunch. If you're just looking to play around with your own toys....it's pretty rough. I'de pay hundreds to get under the hood of the ECU, but not thousands.

Agree with you.. it is a very interesting option just bloody expensive for a hobbyist..

Any thoughts on the significance of the Haltech Elite now working with NSP tuning software? Does that improve anything significant for an Elite user?

It's just a preference thing, ESP is still easy to use. NSP doesn't alter the capability of the ECU in any way that I'm aware of.

It doesnt, but provides a scope functionality, loop logging and the ability to connect to and modify so much faster make NSP a winner in my book. Made connection to my 1500 such a dream compared to before.

Its worth upgrading, It has better logging, better interface and more features

• Dramatically faster connection speeds to the software
• Loop Logging for Elites and improved data logging setup
• On Board Oscilloscope for all Elites
• Trigger and home voltage readout in scope available for Elite2500/2000/1500/1000
• Individual setting password protection
Plus all the other NSP goodies like Advanced Quick-Tune, Undo/Redo on any change, and the improved layouts.

Im in the process of putting a Ohm Racing engine harness that I had built for Emtron KV8.

I spent 3yrs shopping for standalones. I had it narrowed down to Emtron, Motec, Haltech, MaxxECU. While shopping I was seeing a lot of similarities between Emtron and Motec, but one thing that set Emtron apart from Motec is that it has all the possibilities available standard that Motec would with a very custom firmware for the Evo 8 which is more expensive than what is available. Then Turbosmart brought out the electronic wastegates and Emtron worked with Turbosmart on the development of them which is something I am going to run eventually. Then what brought me to my decision of getting the Emtron KV8 it has all the capabilities of a Motec M1 with custom firmware but completely available standard and UI/UX of Emtron Emtune software is a lot more logical and intuitive than Motec M1-Tune.

I have considered stock ecu change to maxxecu.

should me taken into account something spesial with acd controller? Requires acd ecu someone signal?

how usually working when installing aftermarket ecu?

Maxxecu do a plug n play for the evo just go with that one.

You will need a standalone ACD controller and the MaxxECU Race Plugin is only compatible Evo 4-8
https://www.maxxecu.com/products/plu...ishi_evo_eight
https://www.dccdpro.com/product/acdp...al-controller/