If you guys want some Emtron pricing, just let me know. Currently being setup as the official west coast distributor for them.

 

I'm still trying to figure out the differences between these ECUs. I signed up for a subscription of training videos with Evans Performance Academy, which walks step by step through Emtron and Haltech among many others. I wouldn't say that price is no object, from what I've seen the differences in prices between these systems are not THAT different, except Motec. I care most about flexibility on safeties and also being a good choice for Honda and GM setups as well, as I'd like to leverage my knowledge for other cars in my garage. Right now, leaning Haltech but definitely assessing Emtron too. It just takes SO much time to learn about each one! It's like 30 hours of video per platform.

 

Still struggling to make this decision. The tuner I’m likely to use to get me setup is recommending Link over Haltech, and Emtron as the nest step up, based on the speed of the units and especially the datalogging aspects. He said that Haltech is more tedious to tune because the logging app isn’t well integrated with the tuning software compared to the others. Thoughts? He offers tuning of all of the systems mentioned in this thread and a bunch more. He is extremely knowledgeable, as demonstrated by his library of instructional videos, including using EcuFlash on Evos.

 

In my experience Link has good customer support but their products seem to leave something desired in a lot of cases. Everybody I know who's bought Link always ends up moving to something else a year or two later.

I don't have any experience with Emtron but I'd probably rank it up there with Motec based on how many high level racecars use it.

Haltech was my choice. Good price, user friendly, plenty of expansion capability, lots of available pnp add ons, huge community knowledge base, digital wiring layout is easy to set up.

If your main concern is speed, all of them are eons faster than the stock ecu you have now so I wouldn't worry about that.

 

Yep thats haltechs achilles heal their logging software is ****. But you can use external programs for logging analysis like megalogviewer which is what i use. you can get 200hz logging out of them but its only for a short time unless you connect it to a tablet or laptop. Pretty much they need the ability to add a USB hard drive or something to them so u can do long term logging at a high bitrate.

Id say he probably gets a better kickback from the link hence why the recommendation towards link. Tuners just seem to have brand preferences. Its a bit like pepsi vs coke. Most people cant tell you why they prefer 1 over the other they just do. its what your used to or have the most experience with.

Ive found haltechs interface much easier to navigate. a 5 year old can connect and set up a new sensor etc. everything has a little help box in the corner explaining what it does and how to adjust etc. Their tech support is great and they have a link on their website which you can use so they can dial in to the ecu and help you with whatever you need. Im not sure if Link worked out the gremlins with their latest product or not. I had a G4+ before the Haltech.

I dont think youll be disappointed with either brand. but having used both i know which i prefer. my only other advice would be if you can afford the likes of the emtron/motec etc then its definately worth spending the money to go to that next tier.


I found their customer support terrible, I had something fail from a short circuit in my ecu. They took like 2 weeks to get back to me and just said cant repair it but we will give you 5% off retail price on a new one. I could get 10 - 15% through my dealer. I said ive had 2 of their ecus and been a customer for 8 years and they were like ahwell thats the offer so i went elsewhere. It was a bit of a kick in the face to offer a long time customer whos had a failure in their ecu 5% discount i found.

 

Is there a log viewer for motec that is free?

 

Export to CSV and you have your pick.

 

I thought i2pro was free for motec?

 

The software is free yes. But you need to have i2 Pro logging licence installed on your device that your logging from or it wont let you look at it.

Motec is a rabbit hole of licences and can become stupidly expensive unfortunately. probably the one big downside to motec.

You can use i2 standard to view log data from motec logging capable equipment without a licence but the data streams are quite limited to basic things

For iracing for example theres a software we use which converts the iracing file format over to motec i2 pro format so you can analyse. if you can work out a way to get your log into the iracing format you can probably use this program to convert it lol. *disclaimer i dont recommend this please dont sue me motec*

 

I'll probably use i2 standard then for a while once we get our m1 installed. And if they do another 10% discount around black friday or year end pick up a licence of Pro. So good to know

 

Download i2 standard and have a look at whats available. if you need i can send you a porsche log to look at what channels you get.

 

That's funny I have some Porsche logs to look at from a buddy. They're on an engine dyno with some compressor surge. 1 bar at 2400 might be a little excessive on a 3582 lol

 

Motec is definitely centered around your tuner being the only person doing anything to do with the ECU. For the tuner, the licenses aren't such a big deal when theyr'e charging $2k-$4k to tune your car, plus the money for continued track support. For the more DIY guy, they're definitely a hindrance.

 

The fact that Motec has a dev license and an IDE is awesome. If it wasn't so much $$$$ I would be all about it. Clearly it's geared more for a professional business and less for hobbyists.

 

Yeah. Its why my car will most likely get a Haltech 2500 when the time comes. Only other viable option to keep stock trigger wheels.