Time Attack Advice
Nature loves no voids.
Although nissan and toyota seem to be more performance focused than what mitsi is these days both those brands are now making new OEM parts again. you can even send your GTR in to nissan for a full nut and bolt restoration now. I wouldnt be surprised if mitsi start doing new OEM evo stuff again soon. Especially due to the skyrocketing value of them
Although nissan and toyota seem to be more performance focused than what mitsi is these days both those brands are now making new OEM parts again. you can even send your GTR in to nissan for a full nut and bolt restoration now. I wouldnt be surprised if mitsi start doing new OEM evo stuff again soon. Especially due to the skyrocketing value of them
The harder parts may end up being interior bits like has happened with old GVR4's where theyre old and super brittle. Since we're in the future though, we could 3d scan all the plastic bits for preservation to be recreated via 3d printing. FDM may not be appropriate and too large for SLS, but who knows what will be possible in the 10 years when it begins to matter.
Better to look at DSM prices for stuff. Nothing crazy there though prices are creeping a bit. Always funny seeing people swoon for Evo 1-3 when we have DSMs here that are quite a bit better option to play with.
Yea we literally live in the age of being able to make anything with enough conviction. This isn't some obscure platform like a Mazda 323 GTX or an E30 325IX where they just never became a mainstream platform. Other than the chassis itself there's literally nothing that can't be replaced on these cars with an aftermarket part save some odd interior bits but that's still doable like Dallas pointed out.
I can understand wanting something more modern that's better suited as a dual purpose car but for a car that has the main intention of being a track car, it's still amongst the best out there. If there's a car you genuinely desire more for its looks or performance etc. I can understand that, but selling because you're worried about parts is silly to me. Especially given that many new parts are unavailable at the moment for new cars even.
I can understand wanting something more modern that's better suited as a dual purpose car but for a car that has the main intention of being a track car, it's still amongst the best out there. If there's a car you genuinely desire more for its looks or performance etc. I can understand that, but selling because you're worried about parts is silly to me. Especially given that many new parts are unavailable at the moment for new cars even.
In regards to that one reason, I don't have the resources to make stuff. Who knows how long others will. It's kinda okay now, but in five years? Who knows. We're already buying wet sumps from Australia for a crazy amount of $$$$. Getting ahold of a decent transmission is a bit of a chore. At least there are still a few engine builders out there, though only one id use.
A lot of factors go into my deciding on a car. One is cost and time on replacing parts.
I have a savings account waiting for me to pull the trigger on a sequential from UMS. At that point, I'm committed for good. I haven't because I would hate to be that deep into this car and end up stuck.
or...a Supra, for an example, has a warranty and seems to be just about as fast, right out of the box.

A lot of factors go into my deciding on a car. One is cost and time on replacing parts.
I have a savings account waiting for me to pull the trigger on a sequential from UMS. At that point, I'm committed for good. I haven't because I would hate to be that deep into this car and end up stuck.
or...a Supra, for an example, has a warranty and seems to be just about as fast, right out of the box.

Things like wet sumps from the other side of the planet are because that's where people know to go. 2 years ago I talked with almost 5 US based oil pan manufacturers about making us a good oil pan, all of them said it wouldn't be any issue.
Of course the big things like transmissions aren't cheap, but when have they ever been?
Warranties are nice, but they don't bring me too much comfort. There's plenty of technicians out there that hardly know lefty loosey, righty tighty. Then they're supposed to tear into a modern car to fix a problem that they hardly understand. Warranties don't guarantee parts availability either. I spend some time on Raptor forums and some owners are taking their trucks in for warranty work are waiting 2-4 months for parts.
And in the case of the MK5 Supra, when the warranty is over you have a car that's harder to work on (speaking from my experience with N54/N55 cars), and even more expensive on parts (N54/55 water pumps are common failures and OEM is around $400). I do think the new Supra is a great car, but sometimes the grass ain't always greener...
Of course the big things like transmissions aren't cheap, but when have they ever been?
Warranties are nice, but they don't bring me too much comfort. There's plenty of technicians out there that hardly know lefty loosey, righty tighty. Then they're supposed to tear into a modern car to fix a problem that they hardly understand. Warranties don't guarantee parts availability either. I spend some time on Raptor forums and some owners are taking their trucks in for warranty work are waiting 2-4 months for parts.
And in the case of the MK5 Supra, when the warranty is over you have a car that's harder to work on (speaking from my experience with N54/N55 cars), and even more expensive on parts (N54/55 water pumps are common failures and OEM is around $400). I do think the new Supra is a great car, but sometimes the grass ain't always greener...
That was just an example.
Also, I'm okay with the cost of our transmissions, I didn't comment on that.. it's the continued availability of them, and other vital parts, that I'm concerned about.
Warranty is a warranty even if they're are still issues at this time. Along with parts. Temporary problems that will get better and time, versus worse with time for our cars.
I'm looking long term.
I can't really say anyone should agree with my opinions and decisions, of course.
Also, I'm okay with the cost of our transmissions, I didn't comment on that.. it's the continued availability of them, and other vital parts, that I'm concerned about.
Warranty is a warranty even if they're are still issues at this time. Along with parts. Temporary problems that will get better and time, versus worse with time for our cars.
I'm looking long term.
I can't really say anyone should agree with my opinions and decisions, of course.
Last edited by kaj; Dec 14, 2021 at 07:54 AM.
Its the age old debate, build old or buy new. New has easy quick potential but saturates quickly because you can only do as much as others have developed. Development also lacks time and usually is full of secret squirrel **** where you have no clue on even things like spring rates. And then the cost, what's the cost of a failed new motor or trans? Or cost to figure out what electrical gremlins are cause something dumb like a random misfire.
But its all good, some people like new and ability to swap around cars. But I wouldn't claim that's a cheaper method than sourcing hard-ish to find parts. Trans are tough, but that and ACD pumps are about it. PS Pumps are expensive but almost never fail, Alternators are out of stock now but other mitsu alternators may work (ER working on this now).
Motors are still available for shortblocks and totally reasonably priced or 2.4l in JYs sure cheap. And with those, there's enough other Mitsubishi cars using the same motor and equipment that the minor parts will likely always be available.
I just see the Evo being right there with the C5z and S2000 as cars that will always be up there on grassroots podiums.
But its all good, some people like new and ability to swap around cars. But I wouldn't claim that's a cheaper method than sourcing hard-ish to find parts. Trans are tough, but that and ACD pumps are about it. PS Pumps are expensive but almost never fail, Alternators are out of stock now but other mitsu alternators may work (ER working on this now).
Motors are still available for shortblocks and totally reasonably priced or 2.4l in JYs sure cheap. And with those, there's enough other Mitsubishi cars using the same motor and equipment that the minor parts will likely always be available.
I just see the Evo being right there with the C5z and S2000 as cars that will always be up there on grassroots podiums.
Yeah. But that comes with added expense as well. Example- EOM tcase ring/pinions sets currently not available with no ETA on when theyll be made again. They used to be $650 from TRE. Now the only option is an aftermarket gear set he gets from someone in Italy, and they're $1200..
I don't know about warranties guys. I've been around long enough but warranties haven't really helped me out. It's like those people who choose Snap-On/Craftsman tools... 1) they cry about a missing 10mm. 2) feels bad lending them. 3)pauses work waiting for replacement. 4) spends too much "organizing" them, 5) "heir loom" investment non-sense.
Then there's being denied warranty for racing/modifying the car. Time lost for appointments. Heck I dont even have time for t he Air bag recall
Then there's being denied warranty for racing/modifying the car. Time lost for appointments. Heck I dont even have time for t he Air bag recall
Yeah. But that comes with added expense as well. Example- EOM tcase ring/pinions sets currently not available with no ETA on when theyll be made again. They used to be $650 from TRE. Now the only option is an aftermarket gear set he gets from someone in Italy, and they're $1200..










