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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 12:06 PM
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which baffled pan? AMS ones?
definitely not ams, do they still even do stuff for 8/9s? i have a racefab per the link i had included, it's the most well known but i think there are a few others.

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Yes it is especially on long right hand turns, overfilling can help slightly but youll probably push most of it back out. issue is the oil gets stuck in the head and cannot get back to the pan, the pickup for the oil pump is on the right side of the engine so once the oil gets sucked up and stuck in the head combined with g force pulling the remaining oil away from the pan you just run out of oil to pump. overfilling can help but generally the engine will push the extra oil out.



oversized pan definitely helps, racefab do a nice one. but the only real fix in the long run is drysump. Depends on the characteristics of the circuits your driving on
people running regular hpde/mild class time attack won't go dry sump, i would say you won't need dry sump until u go aero or r-comps, 200tw you should be ok with racefab - been running for a long time like that with no issues
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
definitely not ams, do they still even do stuff for 8/9s? i have a racefab per the link i had included, it's the most well known but i think there are a few others.
pics on your blog aren't working. will check later. thanks
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 01:46 PM
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that's odd - anyway, it's the racefab one, we had a groupbuy for it a couple years back. holding up well - my motor did go because of some fuel relay weird thing, but zero signs of oil starve. kiggly hla is also a must if u dont have it
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
that's odd - anyway, it's the racefab one, we had a groupbuy for it a couple years back. holding up well - my motor did go because of some fuel relay weird thing, but zero signs of oil starve. kiggly hla is also a must if u dont have it
yeah I saw that kiggly thing. weirdly expensive and that noone's copied it lol. I'll look into it. thanks
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
definitely not ams, do they still even do stuff for 8/9s? i have a racefab per the link i had included, it's the most well known but i think there are a few others.



people running regular hpde/mild class time attack won't go dry sump, i would say you won't need dry sump until u go aero or r-comps, 200tw you should be ok with racefab - been running for a long time like that with no issues

Yep if your stock power and on street tyres youll be okay as long as you dont have a stupid long right hand sweeper thats relatively high speed. We have 2 here on the same track that blows stock evos up quite happily even on street tyres haha.
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ViciousLSD
yeah I saw that kiggly thing. weirdly expensive and that noone's copied it lol. I'll look into it. thanks
Ooh forgot about kiggly, these are a good mod also worth the investment. They restrict how much oil gets up into the cam area which helps to keep some of it down in the sump.
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by bee-raddd
Yep if your stock power and on street tyres youll be okay as long as you dont have a stupid long right hand sweeper thats relatively high speed. We have 2 here on the same track that blows stock evos up quite happily even on street tyres haha.
not stock power here, fwiw about 360whp, 25psi stock turbo but the kiggly, crank scraper, and pan do the job for me. only aero is stock wing, dont even have the front lip. 200tw, a number of long right handers but nothing too bad i dont think, not too much with a long sustained g-load, apparently the setup manages ok
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
not stock power here, fwiw about 360whp, 25psi stock turbo but the kiggly, crank scraper, and pan do the job for me. only aero is stock wing, dont even have the front lip. 200tw, a number of long right handers but nothing too bad i dont think, not too much with a long sustained g-load, apparently the setup manages ok
I never had a problem with that setup.
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
not stock power here, fwiw about 360whp, 25psi stock turbo but the kiggly, crank scraper, and pan do the job for me. only aero is stock wing, dont even have the front lip. 200tw, a number of long right handers but nothing too bad i dont think, not too much with a long sustained g-load, apparently the setup manages ok
Yea for sure, Kiggly and crank scraper are all good mods.

Do you do any logging? would be interesting to see if you get any pressure loss at all.
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bee-raddd
Yea for sure, Kiggly and crank scraper are all good mods.

Do you do any logging? would be interesting to see if you get any pressure loss at all.
no - i ride on the backs of others data and research, haha.

my motor blew in april due to a fuel pressure relay line failure, and we opened it up and there was zero sign of oil starvation (because that's what was first suspected). that was good enough for me.
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Old Nov 2, 2021 | 08:10 PM
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Interesting. Is the picture on that link correct? Do you have the 53mm one? Which fan did you get?
Looking back in my notes it came from STM and it was this one: https://stmtuned.com/collections/mit...acing-radiator. Or you can go with a slimmer option as called out above.

and from MAP, SPAL: https://www.maperformance.com/produc...16477054074950. Will need the mounting brackets as well.

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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 10:19 AM
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Gents, Is the condenser fan able to provide back up for the radiator fan in case it gets too hot (or radiator fan/switch stops working)?
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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bee-raddd
Yep if your stock power and on street tyres youll be okay as long as you dont have a stupid long right hand sweeper thats relatively high speed. We have 2 here on the same track that blows stock evos up quite happily even on street tyres haha.
Like the last long sweeping right hand turn on Tsukuba? I've always wondered about how those stock Evo's handled that turn in those old Japanese videos.

I'm doing Streets of Willow which doesn't have any turns quite like that so I think I will be fine..
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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooled_IX
Like the last long sweeping right hand turn on Tsukuba?
that's not going to kill an Evo. Which is why it hasn't
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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Spooled_IX
Like the last long sweeping right hand turn on Tsukuba? I've always wondered about how those stock Evo's handled that turn in those old Japanese videos.

I'm doing Streets of Willow which doesn't have any turns quite like that so I think I will be fine..
Tire tech wasn't nearly what it is today. Any evo remotely fast around Tsukuba has a dry sump.
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