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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 04:52 AM
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I'll be down for a meet on the 26th.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 04:58 AM
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and yeah, e85 really is the way to go. Enough local sheetz have it to be feasible. Lots of people run it every day, especially in summer and do very well with it.

Am I correct that it harder to DD E85 in the winter as the blends change?

If I do modify this one injectors/ e85tune/pump will be the first mods. The power potential is just to great(AND CHEAP) to pass up.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by buchnerj
I dont know, that might be a tough sell for E85, hard to get for a dd, and im looking at the bill and itll be around 1700 for new injectors, double pump, lines, gauge, etc...
you dont need lines, gauges, etc. you dont even need a fuel pressure reg or fuel rail with your turbo (yell at me if im wrong). bottom line is: adding power costs money... period

to add anywhere from 50-100 horsepower for 1700 dollars is a pretty good deal where you're at if you look at alternatives. considering each pale of q16 or c16 you buy from vp is like $400 each time you fill up plus a tune to run that ****, a bigger turbo kit is gonna be excess of 2k, even a meth kit and tune is going to be pricey plus i hate meth so you may be looking for a new motor.


do the research, troll these forums on evom for a year if you have to. you'll come to the same conclusion.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by buchnerj
I dont know, that might be a tough sell for E85, hard to get for a dd, and im looking at the bill and itll be around 1700 for new injectors, double pump, lines, gauge, etc...
what kind of power are you currently making?

a single walbro on e85 is good for around 450 whp on a mustang according to gst motorsports...

good place to start reading: https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/alternative-fuel-225/



I think your estimate is a little overkill......
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Evol.ved
and yeah, e85 really is the way to go. Enough local sheetz have it to be feasible. Lots of people run it every day, especially in summer and do very well with it.

Am I correct that it harder to DD E85 in the winter as the blends change?

If I do modify this one injectors/ e85tune/pump will be the first mods. The power potential is just to great(AND CHEAP) to pass up.
the start-up is what is hard.....if its garage kept it shouldn't be an issue really. When the temps drops to freezing and lower the car can be a pita to start. Adjustments can be made to add more cranking fuel and it does help - but cold mornings are where the problem with e85 is.

once the car is started and up to temp it wont run any different.....in winter the mix drops to an e70 mixture, so worst case your tune will go rich if it was tuned in the summer on a more near to e85 mix.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Evol.ved
and yeah, e85 really is the way to go. Enough local sheetz have it to be feasible. Lots of people run it every day, especially in summer and do very well with it.

Am I correct that it harder to DD E85 in the winter as the blends change?

If I do modify this one injectors/ e85tune/pump will be the first mods. The power potential is just to great(AND CHEAP) to pass up.
According to Sheetz's website, they only have 3 stations in PA with E-85 and they are in the Pittsburgh area. I guess if you're in Pittsburgh, it would be a good way to go. For me way outside Pittsburgh, it wouldn't be economically feasible, unless I had my own station.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by metalsaber
According to Sheetz's website, they only have 3 stations in PA with E-85 and they are in the Pittsburgh area. I guess if you're in Pittsburgh, it would be a good way to go. For me way outside Pittsburgh, it wouldn't be economically feasible, unless I had my own station.
There is one station in Wexford in the North Hills - so not sure where you live. Its a get-go, they are about .30 cents more a gallon than sheetz but they are much closer than the Sheetz locations for someone North of the city.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:24 PM
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I live about 25 miles north of Wexford. Is that the new Get Go inside of that plaza with the Sonics? While this certainly would be closer, I would still burn 50 miles just going to and from the station. To those talking about filling up a 55gal drum, how are you planning on filling that up?

Also, those running separate maps which you can switch, do you have to completely drain your tank before switching over the map? In other words, if I have 1/4 tank of E-85, can I fill up with E-85? Or if I have 1/4 tank of E-85, can I fill up with 93 ?

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Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by metalsaber
I live about 25 miles north of Wexford. Is that the new Get Go inside of that plaza with the Sonics? While this certainly would be closer, I would still burn 50 miles just going to and from the station. To those talking about filling up a 55gal drum, how are you planning on filling that up?

Also, those running separate maps which you can switch, do you have to completely drain your tank before switching over the map? In other words, if I have 1/4 tank of E-85, can I fill up with E-85? Or if I have 1/4 tank of E-85, can I fill up with 93 ?
Yeah that is the one.

Yes u can fill up - I would recommend a 1/4 or slightly less (should roughly be 11-12 gallons of new fuel).......either way. You may notice the car being richer/leaner depending which way you switch but once you fill up the next time your mixture/tune will be back to normal with whatever fuel your going back and forth on.

hey and while your there you can stop at one of those fantastic sonic meets.......
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by travman
Yeah that is the one.

Yes u can fill up - I would recommend a 1/4 or slightly less (should roughly be 11-12 gallons of new fuel).......either way. You may notice the car being richer/leaner depending which way you switch but once you fill up the next time your mixture/tune will be back to normal with whatever fuel your going back and forth on.

hey and while your there you can stop at one of those fantastic sonic meets.......
Thanks!!! Let me know when you guys are meeting at Sonics!
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by metalsaber
Thanks!!! Let me know when you guys are meeting at Sonics!


I guess you weren't around for the lemmonhead days.....he claimed to have had these "huge meets" at the sonic that none of us seem to have never gone. He ended up being the butt of a lot of jokes and got himself perma-banned........
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:50 PM
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I remember you guys talking about him at the last meet. Though Sonics is a lot closer to drive than the Waterfront. hehe
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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For the X's when you buy the walbro fuel pump you need to replace the lines on the fuel pump before you run E85, theres a thread on how it turned all the hose line orange
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 01:59 PM
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I need to consider E-85 again. lol. It just dawned on me that I can use my Pump Perks to get discounts on it. Not to mention I that when I use my Citizens Bank CC, I get $.01 off a gallon of gas per $50 in purchases. Plus I already have 4, 5 gallon containers. So I could get 20 gals extra per stop.

lol, you guys may have sold me on E-85 after-all.
Old Sep 16, 2009 | 02:02 PM
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West side of the city---Sheetz in Robinson Twp(Campbells run) has E85....
Sheetz on university blvd in Moon does not.....



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