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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 05:51 PM
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 05:55 PM
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it's always nice to see these cars being used as they were intended, not hard parked at a McDonalds LOL
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thanks! would be nice to get to a place where there wasn't an issue always popping up with the car though..

to do list as of today:

- ac compressor or condenser or both
- rear bumper knocked off a bit, need to realign it
- consumed a little bit of oil, not surprising given the bouncing off of 2nd i've been doing
- adjust rear suspension down maybe half an inch, maybe put sway bar back to soft after that
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kyoo
thanks! would be nice to get to a place where there wasn't an issue always popping up with the car though..

to do list as of today:

- ac compressor or condenser or both
- rear bumper knocked off a bit, need to realign it
- consumed a little bit of oil, not surprising given the bouncing off of 2nd i've been doing
- adjust rear suspension down maybe half an inch, maybe put sway bar back to soft after that
it never ends LOL. i've spent the past year NOT driving mine. the clutch broke. decided it was a good idea to replace worn piston rings. then.. why not forged stuff, right?
nightmare.
then a spun rod bearing after an oil pump bolt backed out.
starting the car tonight after putting the internals back to OEM. hopefully it's done after a full year of down time. OEM for life.

good luck, man. keep on enjoying it!

i set my car to 13mm of rake and like it a lot. what are you shooting for?
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 06:18 PM
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it never ends LOL. i've spent the past year NOT driving mine. the clutch broke. decided it was a good idea to replace worn piston rings. then.. why not forged stuff, right?
nightmare.
then a spun rod bearing after an oil pump bolt backed out.
starting the car tonight after putting the internals back to OEM. hopefully it's done after a full year of down time. OEM for life.

good luck, man. keep on enjoying it!

i set my car to 13mm of rake and like it a lot. what are you shooting for?
lol i went that route with a previous evo.. eventually parted it back out and went with this car for near stock power levels.. things still pop up though

not shooting for a particular rake or anything - more just exploring different options. one of the past STU trophy winners is in my region, said the front end looked really good but the rear needs to be tamed, which is was a little oddly tail happy today. he noticed the rake too, but said our cars may like a bit. just thought i'd give it a shot before setting the sway bar back to soft
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Old Oct 4, 2015 | 06:35 PM
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lol i went that route with a previous evo.. eventually parted it back out and went with this car for near stock power levels.. things still pop up though

not shooting for a particular rake or anything - more just exploring different options. one of the past STU trophy winners is in my region, said the front end looked really good but the rear needs to be tamed, which is was a little oddly tail happy today. he noticed the rake too, but said our cars may like a bit. just thought i'd give it a shot before setting the sway bar back to soft
yeah. the tuning.. that part's fun LOL. i've been trying different spring rates, sway bars, tires, etc. i don't need to fit into any classes, so i'm free to experiment. tail happy is fun unless it's doing it when you don't want it to?
and yup, our cars tend to like just a bit. 13mm isn't much. my only complaint is that once i got the control arms where i wanted, then set the rake, the car doesn't look as nice LOL. i have crazy front wheel/fender gap haha.
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Old Oct 5, 2015 | 08:03 AM
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yeah. the tuning.. that part's fun LOL. i've been trying different spring rates, sway bars, tires, etc. i don't need to fit into any classes, so i'm free to experiment. tail happy is fun unless it's doing it when you don't want it to?
and yup, our cars tend to like just a bit. 13mm isn't much. my only complaint is that once i got the control arms where i wanted, then set the rake, the car doesn't look as nice LOL. i have crazy front wheel/fender gap haha.
yeahhh - I can do all of that in STU as well. Running 8k/10k, stock FSB and Whiteline 26mm in rear on soft. Ohlins 1 way, I think compression and rebound is tied together.

Tail happy is definitely nice at times - trying to coax my Mini to behave like that so I can do a full rotation on lift in certain corners, but still can't get it out of that car.

The Evo, I don't know - it is tail happy but it feels like more than just a little tail happy - feels unstable at times. I think a lot of it has to do with how bumpy our lots can be, and we have some pretty big elevation changes in our lots. Or could just be me, not being used to it. I have a lot of wheel gap too. I can easily get 3 fingers between the tire (17x8, 245/40-17) in the rear, and maybe 2 1/2 fingers in the front. Very scientific. I'll drop the rear a tad, I think that's what Mitsubishi engineers did with the 9 from the factory, and if it's still unsettled I'll pull back the RSB. all that said, I'm on Z1ss that have been at the end of their lives for quite some time, and once I strap on RE71Rs the car might start understeering. So not really looking to make too many changes to the set up based on how the car feels right now, but I've got enough oversteer to where dropping the rear a little might make all the difference for me.
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Old Oct 5, 2015 | 05:42 PM
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sounds like you have a nice setup. i used to run 8k/9k with a Robi RSB, stock FSB and KW V3. i've changed to AST 4100 with 9k/11k and am running a Bridgestone tire instead of Hankook. i'm excited to see how i like it. my KWs were double adjustable, but i didn't really need all that right now. i like simple setups LOL

it's odd you have more fender gap in the rear. is that a typo? with my 13mm rake, i can get about a finger or two in the rear but three in the front. with stock rake, it's close to even.

old tires will get you sliding LOL but usually sliding in the front first. hm. i'm curious to what makes the car so squirrely. some of are over here trying to dial IN over steer haha
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 09:39 AM
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no - more fender gap in the rear, though only slightly. I thought that's what rake was? Maybe that's why my balance is a bit off? Rear is too unstable? I guess your setup also makes the weight distribution a little better as far as front to back goes, right?

I'll be switching to RE71R's too (if that's what you were referring to) - looking forward to trying it as well.

I also have the ACD reflash from English Racing but I don't think that's the whole of it, though it does increase lift-oversteer. There's a very mechanical feeling of instability in the rear. Perhaps time to recheck my alignment? Though I had one at the start of the year. I'll lower the rear a bit and go from there?

I like this discussion lol
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 09:57 AM
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that's rake, yes but you want to measure it from under the car, at the pinch weld thingamajigs where you jack the car up. it's possible you have over an inch of rake. that's a lot more than even from the factory, i think. i just redid mine last night. i can get almost two fingers in the back and three in the front. i'm still at 13mm (1/2") of rake. I’m at 2.8f and 1.6r camber with 0 toe, if that would make any difference.

Yup, RE71Rs. I switched to those from R-S3s. we’ll see how they do.
I’d love an ACD reflash. It’s on my list of things I have left to do to the car. From what I’ve read I’ll really like the effect it has.

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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by kaj
[QUthat's rake, yes but you want to measure it from under the car, at the pinch weld thingamajigs where you jack the car up. it's possible you have over an inch of rake. that's a lot more than even from the factory, i think. i just redid mine last night. i can get almost two fingers in the back and three in the front. i'm still at 13mm (1/2") of rake. I’m at 2.8f and 1.6r camber with 0 toe, if that would make any difference.

Yup, RE71Rs. I switched to those from R-S3s. we’ll see how they do.
I’d love an ACD reflash. It’s on my list of things I have left to do to the car. From what I’ve read I’ll really like the effect it has.
our alignment specs are very similar - one thing, I do have a little more caster than factory from using the cirodesign plates - I changed a few things at once when I did that unfortunately so I can attribute any exact benefit from it. last year I spent a lot trying to dial out the understeer, when I discovered my springs were put on backwards (10k/8k) - added the caster and the rear bar to get rid of understeer I shouldn't have had, and the car is a bit loose now but judging from what you're saying I better adjust the rake first. that said I think the caster could impact the "fingers between fenders" a little so I would have to measure from the pinch welds it seems
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 03:26 PM
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I have plenty of caster. Perrin PSRS and Vorshlag plates. LOL. The front wheel is visibly forward after the PSRS was installed. My fender liners hate me for it.
Here’s how my car sits now. Not pretty, but it seems to work.

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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 03:52 PM
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 07:36 PM
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I like this discussion lol
same here. i can talk cars all day long.
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Old Oct 6, 2015 | 07:53 PM
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ahh actually i don't mind that look - i'll def take the rear down a few notches.

interesting that your wheel moved forward - mine actually moved backward after adding the plates, which was apparently normal for it. it's like the top moves back but the whole thing moves back with it a bit. i didnt get too much more than stock, i think i'm at around 4.5 deg. i think the psrs is one i can't do in my class, otherwise i would to get the wheel moved back forwards a bit.
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