I have a Stock 05 in Fremont. i'm willing to check out the possibilites on it.

 

On Dustin's car, all we did was activate the Adaptive maps to get the improvements we got. We didn't even touch the regular fuel, timing and boost maps. They are the same they have been for the last several months. This means that these new Adaptive maps, alone, are responsible for ALL the improvements. So yes, previous custom tune efforts are still valid and don't need to be changed or updated. The Adaptive maps work with them, trucking away, realtime, constantly bridging the gap between tuning conditions and real world conditions. This applies to both the pump gas and the race gas map.

We have found that the race gas map and benefit from more aggressive Adaptive maps. By "more agressive", I mean maps which allow more autorithy range for ignition advance. In some parts of the Adaptive timing map, you'll see as much as 4-5 degrees of advance added in at partial throttle for a fraction of a second or so at a time (resulting in HUGE drivability improvments). With the pump gas maps, I've limited these Active map changes to max out at 2-3 degrees just because I never saw any condition which allowed more advance than that when running pump gas.

What is unreal is that these Active maps basically do the job of a 8 hour custom tune on a load bearing dyno (tuning to the safe power threshold for every single load/rpm point). Moreso, it does it for constantly changing conditions. So instead of tuning for different load/rpm with regards to worst-case-scenario, we are tuning for load/rpm/condition. Prior to this, I had to go super conservative on portions of the map that weren't tested sufficiently or got historically troublesome when conditions took a turn for the worse. These days are over. So much, in fact, that now we can finally start adding in power went conditions get good. So, in effect, not only have we fixed a problem that existed with tuning these cars, we are solving a problem that we NEVER though of even addressing. It is requiring us, as tuners, to completely rethink the way cars want to be tuned and what we should expect from them. Never before have we realized that we, and everyone else for that matter, have been leaving so much power on the table that was up for free gabs. We just needed to find out how to get our hands on it! And we did

Shiv

 

Any before/after dyno results?

 

Shiv, can I bring my car over to have it upgraded? I am really interested in trying this new stuff. thanks

Douglas

 

Yes, but full throttle/single gear 2000-7800rpm dyno pulls will only show you the 5-10lb-ft gains, here and there, where the Active maps fill in dips and smoothens out the humps. It wont show you the 30-40ft-lb gains at partial throttle during dynamic driving conditions. It's the kind of thing that needs to be experienced, first-hand, to recognize. What I'm going to try to do this upcoming week is capture some normal road driving conditions (on/off load, partial throttle, etc,.) on the dyno. The tough part is keeping this behavior reasonably consistent between tests. In the end, you need to drive it yourself to see the difference.

shiv

 

When can we get this???????? My Doctor told me if I carry a "Chubby" for over 4 hours, I need to seek Medical intervention!!!!!!!! I've got 1 hour to go.......... so spill it, when can I/we get it!?????????

 

New upgrades/updates will always been tested on local cars first. Then in Dyno Days. Then, finally, fully released to everyone. That's the only way we can catch little glitches and make further enhancements before the flood gates open to everyone under the sun. We put A LOT of time into designing and refining this Active system so none of us are going to risk having it not work like it can/should when it hits the street on other cars. The difference between this upgrade and other much-delayed upgrades is that we've been working on this for a very long time without ever telling anyone. We all knew how important/revolutionary it is and we didn't want to let the cat out of the bag. So rest assured that you're learning it about very close to its public release date.

Shiv

 

OK, Chubbys gone, Now more than ever, SIGN UP for Chicago dyno-days in July, OR Dyno4mance DAYs in July, whereever the most interest is, we go. so far Chicago has it!!!!!

 

I will have my mods listed below, also 280 cams/ TME Turbo and Alky injection AMS (If you can tune the Alky), you are more than welcome to try to smooth out those LUMPS!

 

Shiv, what are the odds of the Adaptive maps being available for the July Midwest dyno day(s)?

l8r)

 

Ok... here's the more info:

Price for the Adaptive package listed above should be around $400. Exact price will depend on the final design of the knock buffer unit. Due to popular demand, it looks like we're going to go with the Innovative LC-1 wideband controller. They (Innovative Motorsports) are out of stock until the 15th which gives us time to make the knock buffer units. We fully expect to be updating locals by the end of the month. Then to SoCal'ers in 4 weeks. Then it's out to everyone else, everywhere else.

We'll make an announcement within a few days with regards to when we're ready to take orders.

If you already have another wideband controller, it's up to you whether you want to keep on using it or trade it for the unit that we will be supporting. All of them work a bit differently and offer different calibrations. The differences are significant enough to cause issues with the active fueling system that will need to be addressed by the user. It's up to the user to determine if they want to deal with this.

The C-Reader is a necessary component to this system. It only costs $50-60 so please go with it. It helps us support you. Just the fact it supresses the PO300 code when left plugged in should be enough reason to use it.

More info to come...

shiv

 

YESSSSS!!!!!!

l8r)

 

Shiv, as part of an upgrade kit, please consider offering a full plug-n-play harness. It would make it easier to just unplug the old harness and replace it with the new one and eliminate the likelihood of tapping into the wrong wires or connecting to the wrong pins.

 

dang an entire month waiting in anticipation

 

Due to this recent change in tuning functionality, the format of all DYNO DAYS to come will be changed.

As discussed in the SoCal dyno day thread, we are in the process of changing the way we do things. I would like to slowly shift away from tuning cars towards showing YOU how to tune YOUR car. With the adaptive features, this is finally feasible... even to those who have no prior tuning experience and no (or limited) access to dynos. So instead of me tuning 10 cars/day for 2-3 days in a row, I would like to tune fewer and use the time left over to conduct a tuning clinic/demonstration for those who want to learn how to tune. We'll try this format out in Socal and see how it works.

How does everyone feel about this?

Cheers,
shiv