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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Is the RA's Recaros and interior the same as the Evo's?
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 12:34 PM
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Canadian pricing

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Although the Canadian and US dollar currencies are almost equal, the prices here and there never are. Check other cars currently for sale. Canadians pay much more than US customers. $36k in Canada means much less than that in US, despite near parity of currencies...
That's extremely unfair to Mitsubishi Canada -- while other manufacturers routinely charge a premium of 40 -- 50% in Canada, Mitsubishi has held the line at about 20 -- 25% premium (depends on how you account for delivery charges, etc.)

Americans might be interested to know that back in 2002, when our dollar was much more worthless, Canada was an excellent purchase opportunity with discounts up to 30%. Now that our dollar's at par, the dealers can't keep pace, because so many fools have bought into leasing cars that lease prices are guiding the markets now.

Personally, I'm very happy that Mitsubishi has managed not to let the gap get as large as others -- last time I checked, a loaded Prius was something like a 55% premium, while a Lancer GTS is still less than 25% more in Canada (hey, we are a smaller market, but it would be less galling if we weren't cheap-car paradise just six years ago!) Mitsubishi had an advantage, in that they weren't actually in the Canadian market back in 2002.

Anyway, my guess would be that a loaded Lancer Ralliart will sell for in the high $20k's US, while the same car will sell for the mid $30k's in Canada. Anything else, and it would either hurt Evo sales (being too cheap) or be a pointless intermediate model to buy (being too expensive). I guess I shouldn't be too confident they'll stick to their historical Canada-US margins; Mitsubishi Canada is likely to charge whatever they think the market will bear for the Ralliart -- the Subaru WRX (automatic + audio kit) sells for $35k in Canada.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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man, for $5k, just buy a one way plane ticket to norther US, buy the car there, and break it in on the drive back home
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by blk-majik
man, for $5k, just buy a one way plane ticket to norther US, buy the car there, and break it in on the drive back home
Unfortunately, the auto manufacturers thought of that before most Canadians, and have concocted the most bizarre set of trade barriers you've ever seen. Some simply refuse to sell you a new car (they sanction dealers that sell to Canadians), while others won't honour their warranty unless the car is first licensed in the US, while still others intentionally rate their US bumpers at 5 miles/hr -- that last one's the most insane, since the Canadian regulation of 10 km/hr is just barely more than 6 miles/hr. For a long while last year they managed to keep out most vehicles because of new immobilizer regulations in Canada.

Anyway, the upshot of it is that the manufacturers have set up so many barriers that the selection is really pitiful (for example, I could buy a new US Nissan Rogue, but not an Altima, and I wouldn't get a warranty on either unless they were more than six months used in the US). Most of the price differences are more than $10k, though, so a lot of people are still flocking to the US to buy what they can.

The main reason I'm buying a Canadian Mitsubishi for my next vehicle (a Ralliart, that's why I'm here) is because they're almost the only manufacturer that hasn't completely screwed Canadians on MSRP pricing (there's a difference, but it's within what I'd considerable reasonable, given that no one really knows where the Canadian dollar is headed). The Ralliart may not end up priced fairly (hard to tell), but at least Mitsubishi has been fairer than most.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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no S-Sport for SST? damn!
BOOOOO!
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 05:48 PM
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That will be a hot seller at around 28-29k. just a little more $ gets you in an evo
I'm sure that will be the price fully loaded. My guess is 25k base.
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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by hibby
BOOOOO!
No S-Sport

Is that also for the US or only canada?
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DirectorSe7en
I'm sure that will be the price fully loaded. My guess is 25k base.
that sounds about right, but i wouldnt mind getting it fully loaded over the X.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoX326
No S-Sport

Is that also for the US or only canada?
I'm hoping they just forgot to put it in the article, I'll be PISSED if there is no S-sport on the RA tranny. Quite possibly p.o'ed enough not not buy it. Sadly, I doubt it though. I'll end up buying it anyway.. >.>
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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I really want S-Sport reviews said it was a huge step up from Sport to S-Sport

Any1 want to answer my other q about interior?
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 02:50 PM
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I'm hoping they just forgot to put it in the article, I'll be PISSED if there is no S-sport on the RA tranny. Quite possibly p.o'ed enough not not buy it. Sadly, I doubt it though. I'll end up buying it anyway.. >.>
makes sense though doesn't it? evo has the AYC, the S-AWC, S-Sport SST, brembos, etc.

SST hack won't be likely as the ecu is built in the damn thing.

as a stand alone product, the RA is one awesome car for the supposed price of 25k. it'd definitely chip away at sales of the Si, MS3, WRX, etc.

at the same time, the evo has enough exclusive content to make it worthwhile to buy over the RA. and not only that, the exclusive content seems to be the real enthusiast features, like AYC and S-Sport, that only an enthusiast would miss if gone. as a daily driver, the RA is not in need of these things, yet it still has plenty of trickle down tech in ACD, SST, etc.

well played hand by mitsu IMO.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 03:01 PM
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This should be interesting.
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:12 PM
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makes sense though doesn't it? evo has the AYC, the S-AWC, S-Sport SST, brembos, etc.

SST hack won't be likely as the ecu is built in the damn thing.

as a stand alone product, the RA is one awesome car for the supposed price of 25k. it'd definitely chip away at sales of the Si, MS3, WRX, etc.

at the same time, the evo has enough exclusive content to make it worthwhile to buy over the RA. and not only that, the exclusive content seems to be the real enthusiast features, like AYC and S-Sport, that only an enthusiast would miss if gone. as a daily driver, the RA is not in need of these things, yet it still has plenty of trickle down tech in ACD, SST, etc.

well played hand by mitsu IMO.
It does make sense.... I still hope its not true though...

*grumpy*
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 06:34 PM
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^^^ I agree I really hope they try and include as much as possible in the RA... If they slim it down too much it wont be as apealing
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Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by EvoX326
I really want S-Sport reviews said it was a huge step up from Sport to S-Sport

Any1 want to answer my other q about interior
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all the interiors should be the same, only differences will be on trim pieces AFAIK
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