The Ultimate 2009 Ralliart Thread mega merge
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Above it was suggested that the SST had a torque limit of 380 ft-lbs. According to Getrag, their DCT comes in two specs: 470 NM (347 ft-lbs) and 450 (332 ft-lbs). So if when the ECU is cracked and reflashed there is definitely room for some increase in power. Allowing for a 15% safety margin, even the lower-rated SST should be able to handle 280 ft-lbs of torque. That would be enough for me, anyway.
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i dont think it would be that easy... the RA has a smaller turbo... i think that may be the only huge difference between the engines... either way... the RA is limited the the amount of tq it can have due to the sst
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I've visited a few Mitsu dealers here in VA and they haven't even heard of the 09 Lancer. One sales manager even started arguing with me saying that I must be thinking of the WRX (I mentioned it had a turbo). I'm considering next time I go I should bring a blue berry, or black berry, or burgandy berry, whatever those things are called that let you look at stuff on the internet, so after I pull up all the info and show it to them, I can beat them on the face with it.
Point being, I don't think there is any way it would be released in April. Time frame just isn't adding up. Not to say that I would not be thrilled to be wrong.
Point being, I don't think there is any way it would be released in April. Time frame just isn't adding up. Not to say that I would not be thrilled to be wrong.
I think the thing you're thinking of is called an iPhone, though pretty much any laptop will do to show a dealer photos... Blackberries are Canadian, so I probably shouldn't be badmouthing them, being Canadian myself...
[laptops are better for beating people over the head than crackberries, but I recommend using a friend's laptop, if you decide to do that :-]
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Besides having a single-scroll instead of the double scroll turbo in the Evo, it also uses milder cams. According to a Mitsu exec who was interviewed on camera at the New York show, those are the only differences.
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If the Getrag site is any indicator, they make two SST-type trannies: one rated for 332 ft-lbs (450 NM) and another rated for 346 ft-lbs. (470 NM). So, it seems the mechanics of the tranny will not be a limit on the RA's power. The electronics that control it (TCM/ECU) might be a limit, but there appear to be a lot of companies interested in cracking and reflashing them.
Besides having a single-scroll instead of the double scroll turbo in the Evo, it also uses milder cams. According to a Mitsu exec who was interviewed on camera at the New York show, those are the only differences.
Besides having a single-scroll instead of the double scroll turbo in the Evo, it also uses milder cams. According to a Mitsu exec who was interviewed on camera at the New York show, those are the only differences.
Not that I don't believe you, I just want to hear what else he said...IM DYING FOR "NEW" INFO!
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it also has a smaller intercooler. quite visible on the test mules and also confirmed by the mitsu exec interview i believe.
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Originally Posted by EvoX326
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Does any1 know if the Ralliart will come with a stock BOV like the Evo??
Apparently not, I mean nobody knows.
Well it would be nice if some1 who was able to see the bay themselves like madfast would be able to confirm this... I dont see y they wouldnt keep the stocker on there.
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Does any1 know if the Ralliart will come with a stock BOV like the Evo??
Apparently not, I mean nobody knows.
Well it would be nice if some1 who was able to see the bay themselves like madfast would be able to confirm this... I dont see y they wouldnt keep the stocker on there.
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here ya go: http://youtube.com/watch?v=7KLHCsEuxw8
Something else from the video - it pretty much sounds like we will be getting the 09 RA with just the TC-SST (he says something on the subject at the very end of the video)
I'm going to just have to accept the fact that the RA is going to be TC-SST
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Awesome! thanks for the link
Something else from the video - it pretty much sounds like we will be getting the 09 RA with just the TC-SST (he says something on the subject at the very end of the video)
I'm going to just have to accept the fact that the RA is going to be TC-SST
Something else from the video - it pretty much sounds like we will be getting the 09 RA with just the TC-SST (he says something on the subject at the very end of the video)
I'm going to just have to accept the fact that the RA is going to be TC-SST
the TC-SST would be GREAT for most people because it would be standard. the CVT on the GTS is already a 1k option. imagine how much of a bargain the RA would be if it really was ~25k with SST standard? what other car would stand a chance at that price?