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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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yea its def not 310
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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yeah around 250 sounds a bit more reasonable.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 02:51 PM
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^ I wouldn't think by that much if the gts has good brakes to begin with
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Taryon
Yeah, a few people on this forum have caught that as well.. and it's believed to be a typo (or a missed update from the Evo X spec sheet). It's been announced in several places that the estimated torque is around 253 ft. lbs.
The 310 number is just bad unit conversion: in fact, 35 kg.m = 253 ft.lbs. Blame that one on the US being the only developed country in the world still officially using a variant of the British Imperial system of units. Can't really blame the poor Japanese (Mitsubishi) for having trouble with such a bizarre aspect of US culture.
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Old Mar 23, 2008 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by aestival
The 310 number is just bad unit conversion: in fact, 35 kg.m = 253 ft.lbs. Blame that one on the US being the only developed country in the world still officially using a variant of the British Imperial system of units. Can't really blame the poor Japanese (Mitsubishi) for having trouble with such a bizarre aspect of US culture.
Hunh? Of course the US should finally make the long-promised switch over. But any idiot can find a translator online with Google in a matter of seconds and get the right number.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 03:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Spookpur
I noticed there aren't any official posted numbers on the expected torque output for the 2009 Ralliart. What I did notice was at the Chicago Auto Show and the New York one recently,




Just wondering.
Gah! What's the warranty info gonna be like ? It's cut off!
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by desperado-c
Hunh? Of course the US should finally make the long-promised switch over. But any idiot can find a translator online with Google in a matter of seconds and get the right number.
That's right, like the idiots who fuel airplanes, or the idiots who design probes to Mars... we all know those kind of people could never make metric-Imperial conversion errors and crash planes or cause the loss of billion-dollar space probes in the Martian atmosphere. That kind of thing could just never happen.

Cut the Mitsubishi people some slack, they're in excellent company.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by spooled_u
Gah! What's the warranty info gonna be like ? It's cut off!
Sorry to bring bad news (maybe the poster was trying to keep your spirits up) -- the Ralliart almost certainly gets the shorter Evolution warranty, and not the longer mainstream Lancer warranty... but we can always hope they change their minds -- there's still time to give the Ralliart the warranty it deserves.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Even at the New York autoshow it said the same about the tq. I guess its a big tyop going around.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by whodizking
Even at the New York autoshow it said the same about the tq. I guess its a big tyop going around.
I'm sure they just printed up a bunch of the same sticker for auto shows -- not as if the Mitsubishi PR people are going to have any idea it's wrong, and even if someone told them, what are they going to do, pencil in the right number? That would just look sad.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 11:16 AM
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OK so warranties are going to be the same as the evo!?

Wow that really sucks. I can't believe they would cut the warranties that bad for first owner. I thought the RA was supposed to be the DD / luxury lancer... I suppose with a transmission that doesn't have much time on it, it is wise to make short powertrain warranties... but still that really kills the purpose of buying a new car for me. I'd rather wait a year and get a used one :-/
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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for me - the SST is a REASON to buy this car - as i can't justify the cost of a MR but LOVE the DSG in my GTI....
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by aestival
That's right, like the idiots who fuel airplanes, or the idiots who design probes to Mars... we all know those kind of people could never make metric-Imperial conversion errors and crash planes or cause the loss of billion-dollar space probes in the Martian atmosphere. That kind of thing could just never happen.

Cut the Mitsubishi people some slack, they're in excellent company.
Those things are especially idiotic, and especially coming from people who should know better. The point is that getting the right number is not especially difficult, even in situations where it doesn't matter much.
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by desperado-c
Those things are especially idiotic, and especially coming from people who should know better. The point is that getting the right number is not especially difficult, even in situations where it doesn't matter much.
Well, only if you can tell when you're wrong -- except that I had seen the 253 number, I would have had no idea that the unit conversion was wrong, even though I know a hundred ways to do unit conversions (I'm an engineer). I mean, let's suppose they had quoted 43 kg.m (which would be about 310 ft.lbs), would you have spotted that that wasn't equal to 253 ft.lbs?

Everyone makes mistakes, and unit conversions are impossible to catch unless you know both systems well, and outside of a minority of technical people in the US/UK/Canada, almost no one knows both systems well.

Man, does this (very boring) discussion ever scream for Mitsubishi to release more details...
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Old Mar 24, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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I just wish they had an optional 5spd in this thing. I'd be all over that car if it did.
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