updated wrx... what does this mean for the ralliart
It's a big difference because it's a load of garbage -- the MSRP of the Ralliart in Canada (base) will be about $32.5k, while the list price of the base Evo X is $41.5k. It's possible that the premium Ralliart, which apparently will include the US package plus the navigation system, will run upwards of $38k, putting it right on the heels of the Evo X GSR. Personally, though, I'd rather have a nice premium car than a bare-bones Evo X.
In Canada, $50k (of MSRP) will almost get you a loaded Evo X MR ($51.5k). The original poster clearly is greatly lacking in the clue department.
To get the price of a Lancer (including the Evo X) in Canada, just multiply by 1.26, which at the current exchange rate is a premium of exactly 20%. Believe it or not, that's good by Canadian auto pricing standards.
Since it costs about $5k to $8k in time, money, and inconvenience to bring a car into Canada from the US, it's not worth it to buy anything less than an Evo X in the US, though the Ralliart may come close to being worth it... except that in Canada we apparently get better Recaros -- hah!
In Canada, $50k (of MSRP) will almost get you a loaded Evo X MR ($51.5k). The original poster clearly is greatly lacking in the clue department.
To get the price of a Lancer (including the Evo X) in Canada, just multiply by 1.26, which at the current exchange rate is a premium of exactly 20%. Believe it or not, that's good by Canadian auto pricing standards.
Since it costs about $5k to $8k in time, money, and inconvenience to bring a car into Canada from the US, it's not worth it to buy anything less than an Evo X in the US, though the Ralliart may come close to being worth it... except that in Canada we apparently get better Recaros -- hah!
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under MSRP when just coming out? Lucky CA guys, I'm sure it will be above MSRP around here for awhile. If I could somehow get one under MSRP, I would probably get one over the wrx. As it stands now, I don't know. I heard there was a place in Kentucky that you can order the new wrx under MSRP now. But with the premium package, the rex is just over 28k, within about a grand of the RA with the sport package. I don't know, I just want the recaros out of the package. I'm not sure how comfortable the standard seats will be. The interior is one area thats swaying me more towards the RA again as the subie's interior is starting to look dated and the seats look awfully flat and they have no optional seats. But the wrx is about 300lbs lighter than the RA and gas mileage should be better, but the RA has the SST, but the wrx has better after market support, decisions, decisions...
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Try and get an MR in Canada for 51.5K$. Hell, when the GSR first got here, it was selling well over MSRP, only recently has it actually dropped down to what it should be. Last I checked, some dealers were still quoting the MR at nearly 60K$. Moreover, if list is 32k$ and an Evo MR lists at 51k$, you're already over a 15k$ difference so apparently I'm not the one lacking in the clue (or math) department. As for saying you'd rather have a fully loaded car than a fast car, drive the fast car and then say that. It's surprisingly difficult to give up performance when you've actually experienced it. Hell I hate some of my friends for letting me drive their STIs, .
.As for buying an MR for MSRP, come down here, I'm sure list price is on if you want one -- not all of us live in overpriced metropolises, which helps when it comes to buying cars and getting enough peace of mind to do simple math... at least you save 8% on sales tax in Alberta, so stop whining!
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under MSRP when just coming out? Lucky CA guys, I'm sure it will be above MSRP around here for awhile. If I could somehow get one under MSRP, I would probably get one over the wrx. As it stands now, I don't know. I heard there was a place in Kentucky that you can order the new wrx under MSRP now. But with the premium package, the rex is just over 28k, within about a grand of the RA with the sport package. I don't know, I just want the recaros out of the package. I'm not sure how comfortable the standard seats will be. The interior is one area thats swaying me more towards the RA again as the subie's interior is starting to look dated and the seats look awfully flat and they have no optional seats. But the wrx is about 300lbs lighter than the RA and gas mileage should be better, but the RA has the SST, but the wrx has better after market support, decisions, decisions...
Huh? The premium Ralliart will be about $38.5k, and the premium Evo X MR is $51.5k, so that's $13k, but that's not what you said -- you said the Ralliart versus the Evo, which is really just $32.5k (base Ralliart) versus $41.5k base Evo X). You claim you don't want a premium car, but the gap between the premium Ralliart and base Evo X (which is what really matters) will be $3-5k in Canada, not $15k.
As for buying an MR for MSRP, come down here, I'm sure list price is on if you want one -- not all of us live in overpriced metropolises, which helps when it comes to buying cars and getting enough peace of mind to do simple math... at least you save 8% on sales tax in Alberta, so stop whining!
As for buying an MR for MSRP, come down here, I'm sure list price is on if you want one -- not all of us live in overpriced metropolises, which helps when it comes to buying cars and getting enough peace of mind to do simple math... at least you save 8% on sales tax in Alberta, so stop whining!
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wow u think u guys have it tought, try buying a car in AUS with all the import taxes etc...
RA start at about $42K, plus some options and OTR taxes etc u will be about $50K+
GSR starts at $60K (new luxury car tax, i know evo is not lux but apparently the govt class anything over $X lux :S ) on the road about $69K, MR starts at $70K... u get the point
tho we have the option of getting the base GSR with the TC-SST for an extra $5K ...
RA start at about $42K, plus some options and OTR taxes etc u will be about $50K+
GSR starts at $60K (new luxury car tax, i know evo is not lux but apparently the govt class anything over $X lux :S ) on the road about $69K, MR starts at $70K... u get the point
tho we have the option of getting the base GSR with the TC-SST for an extra $5K ...
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wow u think u guys have it tought, try buying a car in AUS with all the import taxes etc...
RA start at about $42K, plus some options and OTR taxes etc u will be about $50K+
GSR starts at $60K (new luxury car tax, i know evo is not lux but apparently the govt class anything over $X lux :S ) on the road about $69K, MR starts at $70K... u get the point
tho we have the option of getting the base GSR with the TC-SST for an extra $5K ...
RA start at about $42K, plus some options and OTR taxes etc u will be about $50K+
GSR starts at $60K (new luxury car tax, i know evo is not lux but apparently the govt class anything over $X lux :S ) on the road about $69K, MR starts at $70K... u get the point
tho we have the option of getting the base GSR with the TC-SST for an extra $5K ...
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I don't want a premium car but I'm in the market at the moment anyways. If I was, I wouldn't be looking at the Ralliart, I'd be looking at the Evo GSR. From what I've heard, the GSR is being sold at MSRP here (at least at one dealership). However, I'm somewhat skeptical that will be the case for the MR.
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The wrx has officially announced their 2009 model pricing
http://www.media.subaru.com/
I don't know but $29,495 for a fully loaded ugly looking WRX sounds tempting
sounds better, from the performance and bang for the buck stand point, than the awesome looking mild mannered Ralliart
http://www.media.subaru.com/
I don't know but $29,495 for a fully loaded ugly looking WRX sounds tempting
sounds better, from the performance and bang for the buck stand point, than the awesome looking mild mannered Ralliart
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The wrx has officially announced their 2009 model pricing
http://www.media.subaru.com/
I don't know but $29,495 for a fully loaded ugly looking WRX sounds tempting
sounds better, from the performance and bang for the buck stand point, than the awesome looking mild mannered Ralliart
http://www.media.subaru.com/
I don't know but $29,495 for a fully loaded ugly looking WRX sounds tempting
sounds better, from the performance and bang for the buck stand point, than the awesome looking mild mannered Ralliart