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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by hibby
Gotta love people accusing people of making up numbers like they know what they're talking about.

$26,940 Base MSRP
+$675 Destination
=$27,165

$27,165
+$2750 Recaro Sport Package
+$1999 Navigation Package
=$31,914

Stop talking ****. If you disagree, show me proof that I'm wrong. I already posted the whole options list, with pricing. What more do you need?
Yeah but you priced a fully loaded Ralliart vs. a base WRX which is misleading.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:16 PM
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i promise I wont be paying that much, and my car will be fully loaded
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:34 PM
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Yeah but you priced a fully loaded Ralliart vs. a base WRX which is misleading.
Read again. I didn't say anything about WRX pricing. That's $26,940 base Ralliart MSRP at the top, and fully loaded Ralliart pricing at the bottom. I'm not misleading anyone.

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i promise I wont be paying that much, and my car will be fully loaded
I never said anybody was going to actually pay MSRP for a loaded Ralliart (although I'm sure some people will). I was just pointing out that you didn't have a ****ing clue when you accused ralliarting of making things up.

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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 01:54 PM
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How likely is it that Mitsubishi will sell this car below MSRP? I have a feeling that for the first few months, they'll be acting like it's a supercar.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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in Canada? i dunno

in California? too easy to get a good deal cuz there is so many dealers and so many cars
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Even then they may not sell it for less than MSRP.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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well, i will get it for below MSRP i promise! South Coast Mitsubishi is the shiznit! they arer already advertising under MSRP for the RA
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 03:54 PM
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That's great for you but doesn't really help people in the other 49 states or in other countries.
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 04:17 PM
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hey im just telling you what i know. Canada? i have no idea. i heard that GTS lancers were selling for over MSRP. now i dont know that as fact. but i do know about SoCal pricing
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:39 PM
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The US dollar has dropped far more than 3-5% recently -- prices of materials have nothing to do with US car prices -- it's 100% momentum, and the only possible direction for prices is up (you know, barring prices in the rest of the world falling by 30-50%, or more, if the US dollar continues its downward spiral over the next few years).
???????? This makes no sense. If you think the price of a car is impacted only by the value of a dollar you are wacko. All the value of the dollar impacts are exchange rates and inflation. Actual material costs have a direct impact on price. Hence, you don't see a Porsche or Aston Martin interior in a Mitsubishi or Chevy.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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Why would the price of a car go down anyways if the dollar goes down? Don't forget that most manufacturers have a fairly healthy buffer zone when it comes to prices. If they increased relative to actual costs, they'd have a hell of a time selling cars.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Why would the price of a car go down anyways if the dollar goes down? Don't forget that most manufacturers have a fairly healthy buffer zone when it comes to prices. If they increased relative to actual costs, they'd have a hell of a time selling cars.
Exactly, why do you think most cars cost upwards of 30k. That is partly why sales are going down since leasing is drying up with poor bank situations.
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
How likely is it that Mitsubishi will sell this car below MSRP? I have a feeling that for the first few months, they'll be acting like it's a supercar.
Only in larger centres -- everywhere else they already have seen that the Evo X is hard to push, so they'll be humbled by the time the Ralliarts arrive (not that any sales guy is likely to admit it).

Of course, morons like me who pre-ordered the Ralliart half a year ago will probably generate a small period of MSRP-level sales before the price drops 3-5%. Not that I have any regrets... 3-5% isn't enough to make me wish I'd have waited, and I'm getting the Ralliart in orange, which isn't likely to be something you'll find sitting on the lot (just too difficult to sell relative to black or white, or even blue).
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 05:28 PM
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???????? This makes no sense. If you think the price of a car is impacted only by the value of a dollar you are wacko. All the value of the dollar impacts are exchange rates and inflation. Actual material costs have a direct impact on price. Hence, you don't see a Porsche or Aston Martin interior in a Mitsubishi or Chevy.
Yes, because Japan is part of the US, so why would exchange rates matter... did you bother to think before you wrote that, or do you actually believe that Japan does business mostly in US dollars?

[last I checked, core Ralliart parts are largely priced in Yen and Euros... and it's the Euro that really drives up costs relative to the sad US dollar]
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Old Aug 31, 2008 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Why would the price of a car go down anyways if the dollar goes down? Don't forget that most manufacturers have a fairly healthy buffer zone when it comes to prices. If they increased relative to actual costs, they'd have a hell of a time selling cars.
Most manufacturers offset low US prices by raising prices in nations where customers have fewer choices, or where brand loyalty is stronger. If Mitsubishi raised prices in their tiny share of the US market, it would kill their brand there. I think you're right, but what's likely going to happen in the US will start with fringe manufacturers closing up shop (not enough profit to stick with the US), followed by a sharp rise in prices for those who remain. It's almost inevitable, as it's very likely that the US dollar will continue to decline in the coming years, due to the teetering economy and staggering national debt.
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