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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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LOL... this is too easy for Subi.. mitsu always over prices their under powered cars... Subi just added more power and gave a better price... and their brand is more respected... oh well
Are you trying to say that Subaru doesn't threaten to close hundreds of dealerships and pull out of the US market every few years or so...
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 02:44 PM
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Are you trying to say that Subaru doesn't threaten to close hundreds of dealerships and pull out of the US market every few years or so...
it happened in my area. The subi closed and the wierd way Mitsubishi opened up instead...


Now its called: Ramsey Mitsubishi on RT 17 south in NJ.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RS-0
Are you trying to say that Subaru doesn't threaten to close hundreds of dealerships and pull out of the US market every few years or so...
RS-0, don't take the bait with this guy. all he does is post verbal BS in the hopes someone responds to him.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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I guess that's why I'm waiting until the '10 RA. More stuff for less $$...hopefully.
I wouldn't count on the '10 being cheaper. I hope you're right, because I was looking at the '10 myself, but I suspect it's not getting any cheaper.

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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RS-0
Are you trying to say that Subaru doesn't threaten to close hundreds of dealerships and pull out of the US market every few years or so...
Subaru actually did this or am I missing the sarcasm?
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by RS-0
I guess that's why I'm waiting until the '10 RA. More stuff for less $$...hopefully./QUOTE]

I wouldn't count on the '10 being cheaper. I hope you're right, because I was looking at the '10 myself, but I suspect it's not getting any cheaper.
With oil remaining high, all plastic and rubber are going to keep increasing. I think all cars will keep getting 3-5% bumps regularly. Not to mention the energy costs to build cars and the increased fuel costs to ship them.

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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ralliarting
The wrx has officially announced their 2009 model pricing
http://www.media.subaru.com/
I don't know but $29,495 for a fully loaded ugly looking WRX sounds tempting
sounds better, from the performance and bang for the buck stand point, than the awesome looking mild mannered Ralliart
So you'd rather pay the same price for a bland *** interior not worth 30k at all, a jacked up accessory price, mushy brakes, slushbox tranny and everything else you get along with it?

Oh it sounds much more tempting.
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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The problem with the Subaru is that the slush box on the subaru is as week as the SST in the Mitsubishi... so its a moot point. Once you start going beyond 330whp you will destroy gears on a Scooby if you are not careful. This is why many WRXes have PPG gears ($$$) RA gear upgrades in the past. Also, maintenance and modding is going to be easier on the Mitsubishi. The boxer motor can be a pain to work with.

If you don't intend to mod your car, then I would pick the Subaru though. It has a nicer interior, lighter, better factory brakes and the dealers tend to have better customer service (not always).
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by TruboPower
So you'd rather pay the same price for a bland *** interior not worth 30k at all, a jacked up accessory price, mushy brakes, slushbox tranny and everything else you get along with it?

Oh it sounds much more tempting.
Well it's not the same price.
A fully loaded Ralliart is +/- 31,500, no , with 235hp versus
A fully loaded WRX is 29,500 manual, with 265 hp

The subaru retains its value better. More performance for less money. Uhh its definetly tempting
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 10:53 PM
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31,500

gotta love people making up numbers like they know what they are talking about
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Old Aug 29, 2008 | 11:49 PM
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I thought it was more clear but evidently it's not. You only have two options if you want the TC-SST transmission, the Ralliart or the Evo MR. You can get into the Ralliart for 32000$, by contrast the MR is over 50000$. That's more than a 15000$ difference. I don't want a premium car but I'm in the market at the moment anyways. If I was, I wouldn't be looking at the Ralliart, I'd be looking at the Evo GSR. From what I've heard, the GSR is being sold at MSRP here (at least at one dealership). However, I'm somewhat skeptical that will be the case for the MR.
Actually if you want the TCSST you have 3 options: RA, MR ($47000), MR Premium ($52000!...actual sticker at Scarb Mitsu)
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by GTS_Rob
31,500

gotta love people making up numbers like they know what they are talking about
Gotta love people accusing people of making up numbers like they know what they're talking about.

$26,940 Base MSRP
+$675 Destination
=$27,165

$27,165
+$2750 Recaro Sport Package
+$1999 Navigation Package
=$31,914

Stop talking ****. If you disagree, show me proof that I'm wrong. I already posted the whole options list, with pricing. What more do you need?
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by hibby

With oil remaining high, all plastic and rubber are going to keep increasing. I think all cars will keep getting 3-5% bumps regularly. Not to mention the energy costs to build cars and the increased fuel costs to ship them.
The US dollar has dropped far more than 3-5% recently -- prices of materials have nothing to do with US car prices -- it's 100% momentum, and the only possible direction for prices is up (you know, barring prices in the rest of the world falling by 30-50%, or more, if the US dollar continues its downward spiral over the next few years).
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GTS_Rob
31,500

gotta love people making up numbers like they know what they are talking about
Do you not know what +/- means?
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Old Aug 30, 2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by TruboPower
So you'd rather pay the same price for a bland *** interior not worth 30k at all, a jacked up accessory price, mushy brakes, slushbox tranny and everything else you get along with it?

Oh it sounds much more tempting.
Well lets see, the lancer doesn't exactly have a better interior, it uses more or less the same plastics, the same vinyls and the same basic layout. All manufacturer's jackup the prices on their accessories. The brakes are actually pretty damn good, I've done a few track seasons using the stock pads and haven't had a single problem. The transmission is fine as long as you don't abuse it.
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