It's still an issue. Also, Mitsubishi is notorious for not issuing recalls when there actually is an issue, I vaguely remember there being an issue in Japan regarding their vehicles and an active plan to cover up recall issues.
The issues you refer to on the WRX/STI are again minor (if you wish to call the Evo/lancer issues minor). With the STI it's a simple reflash, much like in the Evo. The paint issue is exactly the same as the Evo as well.
Here are the current issues http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=132627. This one refers to an oil supply line. I don't think it affects the STI. Here is an STI recall, which is just a reflash http://www.iwsti.com/forums/2008-sti...-lean-map.html.
Wait, so you expect to judge a car by the forums? NASIOC is also far larger than EvoM (over 100000 members) so of course by basic probability you are going to see more stories on NASIOC than on Evom. Most of those stories also involve modified cars. Another factor, people tend to search for a forum when they have an issue, not when their car is running perfectly fine. In most of the independent surveys I've seen, Subaru easily ranks above Mitsubishi.

 

No because I don't care about the numbers that much, but seeing as how most people choose to play that silly game, it makes be tickled pink when they come up negative after people have believed the hype.

 

Not according to JD power which ranks Mitsubishi 08 cars as slighly more dependable than Subaru;
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/ratings...tings-by-brand

 

That's JD Power, hell Jaguar is above Hyundai (yet according to other surveys Hyundai ranks near the top).

 

I'm not saying you're worng lol I'm just saying don't throw around numbers until there's proof. Accusation usually come back to bite people in the ***...:cough: ralliart fanboys vs wrx :cough:

Come on, you can't say the RA isn't close. Its right there with the wrx in pretty much everything. Yes, a win is a win but you can't say thats its not close

 

What hype? Did I miss the thread titles "Ralliart destroys competition?" People on these boards got a little excited that Mitsubishi has provided a proper Ralliart that compares with the WRX. It comes with Lancer good looks, proven EVO IX AWD system, 4B11T engine, and a twin clutch transmission that is all the rage with European manufacturers these days. Did Mitsubishi ever hype it as a WRX killer? Sure Mitsubishi could have installed the EVO X five speed and the Ralliart would probably put up almost the same straight line numbers as the 09 WRX but they aimed the car at the mainstream as they already have a WRX/STI killer in the EVO X.

 

So it only counts if Subaru gets rated highly?

 

If you read the R&T review, the Ralliart came in last place by quite a bit. It's a nice car and by most standards it's a competitor but you and I both know that on forums every result is a big deal. Hell, people were arguing that the Evo is a superior performer to the STI because of a hundredth of a second difference in lap time in one comparison. I would say the 5 second difference in the Lightning Lap is far more damning.

 

Read through every Ralliart thread before it was launched, people were saying that the car was going to absolutely destroy its competitors, some people even went so far as to say it was essentially as good as an Evo. When the first reviews trickled in, people denied the results because they weren't good (at all). When the next round of reviews came in, people jumped on the best ones and declared them accurate and yadda yadda yadda. It's complete and utter fanboism. It's a nice car but it's not superior to anything (much like the Evo). It's also important to note that the TC-SST is not used in many european cars and to try to compare it to the systems in Ferraris and Lamborghinis is ridiculous.

 

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This is funny. The MR guys are comparing their cars to the RA and can't believe how close the numbers are for performance and at a 14k premium!! I guess it is all what your perspective is.

 

It's funny that there's a very similar thread on NASIOC talking about the R&T review, mainly WRX vs. Cobalt hating over there:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show....php?t=1603766


Comments like these coming from Subaru owners are interesting though

"Is this your first subaru? (Honest question.) It's not that the launch shouldn't count, it's that it is very, very rough on the car. If you were to own all 4 cars for a year, and launch each of them daily with the method used in the article, something on the WRX would break first- guaranteed"

"Anybody with any seat time in a WRX knows that you don't redline launch it, not if you want to drive it home in one piece"

 

I noticed this in general too....MR guys are pissed about how fast the RA is, in the RA forum, it's "slow"

 

The MR is a whole new beast though, on a track the MR would absolutely kill the Ralliart.

 

That's completely true, hard launches are rough on the WRX but hard launches are rough on any car. People are naive if they think they can bag on the Ralliart without repercussions.

 

No but it's literally the only survey I've seen where Mitsubishi ranks highly (or where Honda, Hyundai and Toyota aren't in the top five). Also, look at how the survey is conducted.