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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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The same exact thing happened on here as well in regards to the VIII, IX and X. People hated the VIII because of the triangle front grill, people hated the IX because it lacked the triangle front grill and people hated the X because it looked nothing like the VII, VIII or IX. People inherently hate change. It's not like Subaru owners are spiteful trolls who live under bridges and eat children.


Not true. I once saw a subie owner eat a little girl.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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Subaru's are icky.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 08:04 PM
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Some new numbers on the WRX from Car and Driver.

PERFORMANCE:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.9 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 19.7 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.3 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.5 sec @ 102 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 142 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 18/25 mpg
C/D observed: 20 mpg

I think that is knocking on EVO numbers and for a lot less money. I say, what does this do for the EVO not the Ralliart. If it is performance you are after on a budget, this looks like a no brainer.

Do you have a link to this? I was looking around the c&d website and couldnt find it anywhere.
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 04:34 AM
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http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._test/(page)/1
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Old Oct 25, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dboz
Some new numbers on the WRX from Car and Driver.

PERFORMANCE:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.9 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 19.7 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.3 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.5 sec @ 102 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 142 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 18/25 mpg
C/D observed: 20 mpg

I think that is knocking on EVO numbers and for a lot less money. I say, what does this do for the EVO not the Ralliart. If it is performance you are after on a budget, this looks like a no brainer.
WOW!!! I'm impressed. The Evo and STI barely edges the WRX in the 1/4.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...omparison_test
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 05:01 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRqJtRgUcfQ

I don't know what dyno (elevated numbers?) this was on but the torque is definitely underrated from the factory since it made more torque than hp. 265hp/244tq are the factory numbers. No wonder they are getting great numbers!!

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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dboz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRqJtRgUcfQ

I don't know what dyno (elevated numbers?) this was on but the torque is definitely underrated from the factory since it made more torque than hp. 265hp/244tq are the factory numbers. No wonder they are getting great numbers!!
Yeah really. Good numbers.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 09:58 AM
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I don' t know much about dynos but the run was on a dynojet.
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Old Oct 26, 2008 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dboz
Some new numbers on the WRX from Car and Driver.

PERFORMANCE:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.7 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 12.9 sec
Zero to 120 mph: 19.7 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 6.3 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.5 sec @ 102 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 142 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 160 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.87 g

FUEL ECONOMY:
EPA city/highway driving: 18/25 mpg
C/D observed: 20 mpg

I think that is knocking on EVO numbers and for a lot less money. I say, what does this do for the EVO not the Ralliart. If it is performance you are after on a budget, this looks like a no brainer.

"I think that is knocking on EVO numbers and for a lot less money. I say, what does this do for the EVO not the Ralliart. If it is performance you are after on a budget, this looks like a no brainer."

Go to the real race/ like road course / , and you will see.
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 10:53 AM
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i rather buy a ralli art anyday regardless if its slower than the wrx..I would never buy a slowbaru again..I had a wrx and it was the worst car ive ever owned, piece of garbage spent more time in the shop than what i owned it
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Old Oct 28, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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i rather buy a ralli art anyday regardless if its slower than the wrx..I would never buy a slowbaru again..I had a wrx and it was the worst car ive ever owned, piece of garbage spent more time in the shop than what i owned it
So the 'Legendary Subaru Reliability' is just that? A legend?
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 01:52 PM
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^sometimes people just get a dud car, not all mitsus are perfect, there are alot of lemons out there
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Robevo RS
"I think that is knocking on EVO numbers and for a lot less money. I say, what does this do for the EVO not the Ralliart. If it is performance you are after on a budget, this looks like a no brainer."

Go to the real race/ like road course / , and you will see.
Why so defensive?
I think these are some great and amazing numbers, as well as results. No, it probably wouldn't touch an evo on a road course. But I bet it'd come close. (That's what they mean when they say knocking).

0-60 4.7 seconds, 13.5 @ 102??
The guy in the vid also posted good wheel torque numbers, regardless of the dyno. Those are great numbers for the price. I don't get why you react like that
Those numbers are definitely knocking on evo numbers, as well as STI numbers. Go to a road course and you'll see the "true" results? What kind of comment is that? Are you trying to "put the wrx in it's place"? Maybe that's the difference between a car enthusiast and an evo enthusiast

I bet if Evo owners lashed out against Mitsubishi the way Subaru people and the entire internet community did we'd have slightly different cars. If the people say the performance is fine the producer won't change it. If they say the quality is fine the producer won't change it. I think that's pretty basic.

Subaru did a great job re-releasing this car. Sucks a little for the guys who now technically have Subaru 2.5gt's or whatever it's called now.

This little wrx posted numbers as fast/faster than most evo's and sti's stock! I can't be sure, but this has to force both their hands into pumping more speed into their flagship cars, doesn't it?
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 03:40 PM
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dont like the look of the new wrx
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Old Oct 29, 2008 | 03:41 PM
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sorry...double post

Well hopefully the lancer just gets more power
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