No way.
There is nothing in that first link that says admitted to that.
lol


That was pretty clear.

 

the ruler of the net

Dude you need to compensate something?

 

OK, Subie is either replacing those few motors or actually replacing the entire car, depending on the mileage. It was some oiling problem, it is supposed to be fixed and only affected a certain number of VINS. While no one wants to have engine problems on a new car, at least they have found the problem and addressed it quickly and outwardly. It is not like every engine made that is having a problem.

I am going to say that the EVO X is the best track car made to date. Nothing can handle as good as it. Nothing is as fast as it. Nothing looks close to it. Nothing is as solid as it. Nothing goes to those speeds in as much comfort as it.

And if a few thousand was spent on the new 09 WRX suspension and brakes and a stage 2 setup it would hang with the new X period and still be 2-5k cheaper even after mods when compared to a stock EVO X. Would it hold up as long, maybe not. To be determined.

I do not understand why some think these cars are built just for racing at tracks. They are basically very good performance sedans. I am sure some do get some track time, but most get way more highway time. All the money on all the mods and what do you really get? I understand it is a passion and a hobby, but come on, racing is not a living for most people who buy these cars. It is just a huge money pit. Buy a new car that has millions spent engineering it and then spend more because you can do it better. Change wheels, suspension, mod the engine. Then go to the track to tear up a 40k+ car that was plenty fast enough stock for the street.

As has been said so well before, all anyone is saying is that for a 25k car, the WRX is tough to beat for a daily driver. No one has delusions of winning LeMans with it. For the couple of times a day that you get to actually ring it out, it will be more than enough fun. No one is going to give me a cookie for beating a F-150 up the on ramp on the way to work, or for trouncing the kid in the Cobalt LT at the stoplight. Especially when I have two car seats in the back!! It is strictly for fun in short bursts. Not hours of lap time at the local circuit track. The performance numbers are just nice to know, and help give numerical data to help compare cars when making a decision on what to buy.

I personally have no interest in going to a track to tear up my car to post a time that gets me nothing but a bunch of bills for worn brakes, tires, suspension, trans and engine parts. If I was a pro, and made a living doing it, then hell yeah, I would care about the track time. But then again, I would not be dealing with a stock car, I would have a tubbed dedicated trailered race car.

It may be fun to go and race around a track, but for me, I just want a good, economical, fun, practical, usable, enjoyable, comfortable car that is dependable to use year round, and on occasion, can step on it and have a quick thrill without owning one of the boring daily transporters like a Honda Accord.

 

First of all , i did not quoted you
remember?
post 924.
SO i dont know why you are so agressive.. need a relax.

Then you quoted me , with this type of tone:
"Why so defensive?"
""true" results? What kind of comment is that?"
"Maybe that's the difference between a car enthusiast and an evo enthusiast "
etc

"Seriously... who said sh*t about wrx beating it on a track? "

just the simple fact those test numbers are from the track...

"Damn.. seriously... You come over into every thread to make sure everyone knows that in the end, your evo x is faster"

nope the other way around for the first time buyers , will not think they WRX is just as fast as the X or the STI as some guys try to say it.

"
And look at you all butt-hurt saying stuff about how next year, the evo will be faster. Who... cares..?! The 09 wrx has good acceleration numbers! In fact, they're about even with evo's and sti's! That's it!"

kinda feel the little , affraid to admit the 09 vs 08 is not really fair?
also sounds like you just say it the the WRX just as fast as the EVO and the STI. But sure you dont do that right?

"No one even ever said nor would disagree with the fact that the evo x would probably run faster on any given track! Yet you feel the urge to point it out to put your X back on top. DUH THE X WOULD RUN FASTER. DUH A TRACK IS A TRUE TEST OF THE CAR'S FULL POTENTIAL. DUH."



"Is english not your first language? "
what does it do anything with the WRX or the Evo performance?
Very lame approach to "shut off somebody" remember? You like that huh?


"I'm seriously sick of your **** man."
Informative for sure . classic.

"here I clearly draw the line on where this argument is. You're talking about something completely different. Stop trolling"

classic too

"I'm just saying man, wrx posted 0-60 and 1/4 mile times that rival a lot of averages for evo's and sti's. It doesn't mean it's a faster car on the track, nor has anything to do with the track. No one else is having a hard time understanding this, so what is the problem? I'm hoping once he understands that, he'll leave."

perfect finish.


i'm sure you could find only me as a WRX "enemy" in your eye in this thread, or the other when you try to explain how reilable the magazine tests.

Well , at least defenietly more colorfull the site with you .
I love it.

keep up the good work .

 

Haha. Good one? You're the one making personal attacks which have no bearing over the internet.

I'm just pointing your mistakes out, as well as your blatant superiority complex and insecurity for your car.

That wrx posted acceleration times as good as any stock evo ix or x. No one is taking it as badly as you are though =/

I didn't get all insecure and feel the need to point out the evo could dominate it on any track, the true test of a car's speed. Who's compensating now?

 

"what does it do anything with the WRX or the Evo performance?
Very lame approach to "shut off somebody" remember? You like that huh? "

I question your english because you are misinterpreting some of the meanings of what people are saying. And that was "shut down" my friend.

For example, "who said sh*t about the wrx beating it on a track?" That was a rhetorical statement. That means no one was questioning the wrx's capabilities or it's limits in relationship to it (the evo x) on the track.

"nope the other way around for the first time buyers , will not think they WRX is just as fast as the X or the STI as some guys try to say it."

Who's trying to be ruler of the net now? Thank you for setting prospective buyers straight, I didn't know it was your duty.

"kinda feel the little , affraid to admit the 09 vs 08 is not really fair?
also sounds like you just say it the the WRX just as fast as the EVO and the STI. But sure you dont do that right?"

What? lol. Different generation cars get compared all the time... sure... "Darn that car is MY09 and mine is MY08! Can't compare them now..."

Right. Sorry you had to come here and try to make sure all the prospective buyers knew that the Evo X was still better... Even though no one had a question about it in the first place.

And please, do lead people to the other thread where you made yourself look like a fool. Even the mods agreed.

 

i like this comment thought.
I like the new STI, i almost got one. in white. But that time they just had a ecu problem knocking, and the door problems.
So i have nothing against the STI neither the WRX.
But the STI and the WRX has they own place. Just as the RA and the Evo.

to try to mix them up and say , hey i could do it better but cheaper, thats a little too bold, at least i have to say.
Those companies are knows the tuner scene , and they make sure you cant do that , at least a reilable performance level.

This wrx sti and the evo vs eclipse are much older then most of the guys have a license here.

So what i'm saying , just dont be delusional, to think if you pick the 09 WRX you will be up there. Sounds like i'm on the high horse?
Maybe , but is true. You like it or not.
If this wouldn't be a truth then would be an absolute sales disaster any evo or sti.

But its not. And the more experienced people knows why.
Also the performance is not one thing. 1/4 mile . far away from there . Specially if you thinking about a performance car.

I do think as a dd. the wrx or the ra is better then a STI or the EVo.
But you will not make those better track cars with that money which would cover the price difference.

I'm not defending the "big" brothers /dont need to/ but yes i do tell if you planning a track car then spend more and you will never regret it.
But if you listen those " well informed opinions" you might will find yourself to trade the car in /loosing money/ or not 100% satisfied with your car.
And i'm talking about my own experience, what i saw in the tuner scene a last 20+ years. I will leave it this way for others .

 

I don't think anyone feels the wrx will be viable competitor to the evo x or sti on the track. They are the flagships for a reason. That doesn't mean you cant take a civic, throw 15 grand at it and make it a 1/4 monster. Yes, it will post better acceleration times. No, it won't be as good of a car as an evo x or sti. No one is confused

 

where is that , link it for me pls.

 

Well i need to respond when some one like you qutoe me and attack me like you did in your first "respond"

You dont know me that is why you think i take it badly

 

lol. You really want? Forget it, Rob that's not the point.
I agree with what you're saying. Of course the X is going be a better track machine, better car in general etc. etc.

I'm just disagreeing with your methods. No one that I saw questioned that it would be as fast as the X on a track. The wrx doesnt have anything that makes up for the evo x's superior awd.

I just don't get why you don't have respect for other cars unless you're sure they know they're not as fast as yours?

 

the reason i'm in this part on the forum because i'm looking for a RA or the WRX.
Now i got good connection in both side to get them cheap.
SO there is no advantage neither of them.
I like both , so there is hard to decide too.
The performance i dont really care which is better , since will be my DD.

But there is tooo many whisper about being just as fast, and most of the guy never even drove one. All 3 of them. granted i didn't drove the 09 wrx.
Also i give respect where i get one .

 

I'm looking for a DD as well.
I actually went out and test drove the 09 the other day. It's fast, but to be fast enough for a 4.7 0-60 they probably launched the car at redline. It's quick, man. That's all I'm saying. It would definitely be as quick as a stock evo for sure with probably just a tune and increase in boost.

But for absolutely certain, on a track with twists and turns, I hold no delusions that any evo should be able to run faster. Period. But acceleration? This new wrx has a good amount of it.

 

only thing is happened every time the wrx history, they died at high rpm. And if they didn't then they break down.
That is my main concerned.
so there is a RA which is completely new for me. I would like to see at least one with the Ecu tune how it performs. Because that is what i like. drop in. highflow cat and tune. for dd.

 

I think for the more general performance oriented buyer, the wrx is still a great option. Engines aren't as strong as Mitsu's for sure, but they are showing some strong performance. A great alternative for anyone in the market looking for a decent sports car, especially if they want a manual tranny.

I'm genuinely impressed. Cars as a whole are getting faster and faster. Evos and Sti's came, and cars like the 911 carreras, m3's got a whole lot faster. With cars like Cobalt SS and WRX getting closer to closer in performance to the evo's and sti's of old (at least in magazine tests), I'm sure it will force the evo's and sti's to get faster as well.