ambystom you will go to ANY lengths to defend subaru and the wrx.
it is ridiculous.

 

one was stock
one had exhaust and DP(went back to stock and got a new engine and that one had problems and again was not covered under warranty)

 

Again, NASIOC is a much larger forum than Evom, naturally more people will report problems if the population itself is larger. This is basic probability. Plenty of people consider a gas pedal snapping and oil leaks to be pretty big problems, especially since people like to point out the same issue (oil leak) on Subarus as evidence of their inferiority. Subarus have not had tune issues for years, they only got weird in 07 and that's partly because of emission requirements. Some people also suspect that Subaru is getting ready to make a big change and is trying new things out.

 

Yeah you know, appealing to logic and providing counter arguments is pretty ridiculous .
EvoEntropy, that's two engines and we don't know any background information. Could they have been due to flaws in the engine? Sure but they might have been user errors for all we know.

 

"Plenty of people consider a gas pedal snapping and oil leaks to be pretty big problems,"

i would start call something a problem, IF at least it is effected by a 10% margin of the sold cars.

The BIg problem is more then over stretch it, kinda like try to hide behind it.

3 case of the gas pedal/i know only 2 though/ is way over kill to call it a problem.
You know it, is so stupid its not even funny anymore. Just because some guys thinks "Ken" will hit harder, if they push the button so hard, the joystick will break, thats doesnt mean the joystick have a manufacturer problem. Even child level they understand that.

we dont pick issues with the subi also with 2-3 cases either... Not to mention in the Subi world is not unheard of, the pedal breaking either.



So lets be real and pick the issues up and not the legends.

The most fair comparison is always the recall comparisions.

 

I was using that problem specifically because it is blown out of proportion, much like the STI engine issue. People here of half a dozen cases on a 100000+ member forum and all of a sudden, every STI is a liability. Well one our "small" evo forum, we've seen three evos have gas pedal issues.

 

Considering that a merge into traffic and the potential for a gas pedal break, seems serious if not a major problem. It is a potentially life threatening event. May not require a recall, and may not be widespread and may not be manufacturer fault (IE Ken stepping on it too hard). But when safety is an issue, it is concerning regardless how few are involved.

 

It is not. since the gas pedal is not direct anymore, it is drive by wire. So if it is breaks then the left over will just go back they start position and the car will going to idle. Or slowdown in gear. You cant build the car to being idiot proof, no matter how hard you try it .

Nothing happens , you pull over and wonder that is a warranty issue or not?
Even if you race or doing passing in the traffic will not kill you. Just slow down and pull over.
Just like when you run out of gas.
Not so many people died because they run out of gas , dont you agree?
Unless that was desert crossing .

 

It's still a potential cause of an accident. My car is drive by wire and if I suddenly lift of the pedal, throttle is cut quickly and I slow down, fast. Imagine you're accelerating with traffic and all of a sudden, you have no power. It's just as much an accident risk as a blown motor since the results would be the same (sudden lose of power).

 

Thank you Amby. Sudden power loss with 18 wheeler up your **** is not good.

By the way, stage 2 WRX made 290hp and 315tq. I believe all that was added was an aftermarket downpipe.

 

Stage 2 is a tune as well. I'm stage 2 right now (Maddad downpipe and Maddad catback and with an Airboy tune) and I absolutely love it. It'll hold me over till I put the STI turbo and intercooler in .

 

Such as;

"Subaru is having issues with 2009 turbo engines spinning rod bearings with less than 2000 miles on them much the same as the stop-sell/recall last year. Also STI transmissions are having issues with 2nd gear popping out. The fix is an entire new transmission."

"Oh yeah well EVO's are having broken pedals."

Great work there Amby.

 

Yeah but there could be an eighteen wheeler barreling behind you! Or a 747 landing, or a tank chasing you!

 

when do you guys think we'd see info about the 2010 ralliart to know if anything changed?

 

And how is that false logic? Here is the summation of people's arguments

"Subaru sucks because they're having engine issues. I heard on NASIOC that there are like 500 engines that are exploding, literally exploding. Oh and the engines are raping people's daughters as well."

Here is my argument

"Mitsubishi is also having issues with it's cars. The Evo is not perfect, never was and for evo owners to point the finger is hypocritical."

I love how Evo owners are brushing off broken gas pedals yet they get all worked up about a handful of motors that are being covered by warranty. Go back to bashing the WRX though, it's completely constructive and certainly makes the fact that it blows the Ralliart out of the water immaterial.