Kinugawa 25g turbo thread
I can offer you a replacement for the fpred. Its not a forced performance wheel; but its relatively close as far as size for size goes. Its a 56/76 wheel, I can offer it to you in dual 6/7 blade variation. If you wanted to do the 25g; youd obviously need to bore the compressor cover along with the bearing housing. Might be a good idea to rebuild and recresh the turbocharger but thats entirely up to you. If your looking for the least amount of money and downtime, the fpred replacement wheel would be my choice. Yes; a vsr or high sleed balancing would be all mhi billet and cast wheels are already component balanced. If youd like to talk, pm me and ill do my best to get you taken care of
-Steve
-Steve
For the record, im in no way trying to vendor or compete with fp or any other turbo specialist out there on these broads. I am just offering to help a fellow member and point him in the right direction as it seems money and downtime is the issue. Maybe not money but downtime.
Thanks,
-Steve
Thanks,
-Steve
To Kiss my ss, Im glad you have taken the initiative to take the turbo apart from its housing and distinguish the obvious problem. That td05 shaft is itty bitty tiny for a compressor wheel known to flow over 60lbs/min. There wasa guy on this board maybe a year ago who had a 25g kit and slapped it on his oem evo turbocharger and said it was a success but I told him that was a catastrophe waiting to happen. That big of a wheel is far to big and out of the proportion for a td05 shaft to even think or dream of supporting the 60mm flow characteristics.
Imo, youd be best with the TD06H4 shaft and the twin scroll 12cm housing. Although these housings would be ideal for big power and revving past 7k, i dont see spool as an issue wkth your 2.0ltr and a 7k rev limiter. The single entry 10cm and 12cm would be ideal if you were planning to rev past 7k but the 12cm ts should flow more than the 10cm single entry housing while spooling a tad bit quicker. Do you have a ts flanged manifold? If not, then my honest recommendation would be the 10cm. With the new shaft, the billet 25, you shouldnt have a problem making your goal and possibly exceeding with the right flow mods, supporting mods, boost, and octane
Imo, youd be best with the TD06H4 shaft and the twin scroll 12cm housing. Although these housings would be ideal for big power and revving past 7k, i dont see spool as an issue wkth your 2.0ltr and a 7k rev limiter. The single entry 10cm and 12cm would be ideal if you were planning to rev past 7k but the 12cm ts should flow more than the 10cm single entry housing while spooling a tad bit quicker. Do you have a ts flanged manifold? If not, then my honest recommendation would be the 10cm. With the new shaft, the billet 25, you shouldnt have a problem making your goal and possibly exceeding with the right flow mods, supporting mods, boost, and octane
Last edited by SANDIEGOSFINEST; Apr 10, 2014 at 06:31 PM.
kinugawa td06 25g hybrid with td08 compressor housing. basically a t68 turbo, modified myself

625hp, 23psi.
**** to drive with a twin plate, mainly because of the lightweight flywheel. smoother to drive taking off at 4500rpm, where there is actually torque.
if you look at the speed, its only max 143km/h (88mph.) we couldnt get it to dyno at 1:1 ratio (4th gear) because the flywheel was too light, making it stall. dyno was done in 3rd gear. dyno would show more torque in 4th but meh... dont care.

625hp, 23psi.
**** to drive with a twin plate, mainly because of the lightweight flywheel. smoother to drive taking off at 4500rpm, where there is actually torque.
if you look at the speed, its only max 143km/h (88mph.) we couldnt get it to dyno at 1:1 ratio (4th gear) because the flywheel was too light, making it stall. dyno was done in 3rd gear. dyno would show more torque in 4th but meh... dont care.
Last edited by Matt K; May 23, 2014 at 05:03 AM.
To Kiss my ss, Im glad you have taken the initiative to take the turbo apart from its housing and distinguish the obvious problem. That td05 shaft is itty bitty tiny for a compressor wheel known to flow over 60lbs/min. There wasa guy on this board maybe a year ago who had a 25g kit and slapped it on his oem evo turbocharger and said it was a success but I told him that was a catastrophe waiting to happen. That big of a wheel is far to big and out of the proportion for a td05 shaft to even think or dream of supporting the 60mm flow characteristics.
Imo, youd be best with the TD06H4 shaft and the twin scroll 12cm housing. Although these housings would be ideal for big power and revving past 7k, i dont see spool as an issue wkth your 2.0ltr and a 7k rev limiter. The single entry 10cm and 12cm would be ideal if you were planning to rev past 7k but the 12cm ts should flow more than the 10cm single entry housing while spooling a tad bit quicker. Do you have a ts flanged manifold? If not, then my honest recommendation would be the 10cm. With the new shaft, the billet 25, you shouldnt have a problem making your goal and possibly exceeding with the right flow mods, supporting mods, boost, and octane
Imo, youd be best with the TD06H4 shaft and the twin scroll 12cm housing. Although these housings would be ideal for big power and revving past 7k, i dont see spool as an issue wkth your 2.0ltr and a 7k rev limiter. The single entry 10cm and 12cm would be ideal if you were planning to rev past 7k but the 12cm ts should flow more than the 10cm single entry housing while spooling a tad bit quicker. Do you have a ts flanged manifold? If not, then my honest recommendation would be the 10cm. With the new shaft, the billet 25, you shouldnt have a problem making your goal and possibly exceeding with the right flow mods, supporting mods, boost, and octane
I have had my plans put on hold for a while but hope to get my project finished here soon. DD tune will be 93 and race tune will be e85. I am direct injected so swapping injectors isnt an option so to run e85 i am running a walbro 450lph e85 pump and a secondary fuel rail in my sheet metal intake manifold utilizing (4) 38lb injectors. I am doing a stock motor build at this point to see how far i can take it. I figure at ~600 its gonna bend a rod.
I am going to swap to a billet 25g comp wheel with the td06 turbine and the 12cm housing. Oh i am t3 flanged btw.
We'll see what happens. I know it will break 500 with ease. Im not sure if i want to push my motor to failure at this point so i dont think i'll go past 550. I was just worried about the power band being too narrow redlining at 7k. If it is too narrow i'll probably be looking at another option. Maybe try a hx35 i dunno
Here's my tuning results with a Kinugawa TD06SL2R-25G-11.5T @ 28PSI
Specs:
HKS EVC5
2L Stock block
Evo 9
E85
GSC S2 + springs & retainers
Walbro 255
FIC 1050
Aftermarket LICP
Hoping to get more power after upgrading the fuel pump. So far, love it. Just so ya'll know the actuator it came with was bust, ended up using an FP Red actuator.
Specs:
HKS EVC5
2L Stock block
Evo 9
E85
GSC S2 + springs & retainers
Walbro 255
FIC 1050
Aftermarket LICP
Hoping to get more power after upgrading the fuel pump. So far, love it. Just so ya'll know the actuator it came with was bust, ended up using an FP Red actuator.
I got a 25G to 490 WHP on a slightly uphill vd pull
Reving to 7000 RPM
At 34 PSI and kept asking for more
84mm wheel by 60mm
Bigger than a black or ef4...cheaper...reliable too flow rating is over 64 cfm
Reving to 7000 RPM
At 34 PSI and kept asking for more
84mm wheel by 60mm
Bigger than a black or ef4...cheaper...reliable too flow rating is over 64 cfm
Would stay away from kanigawa and just go for turbo labs of america
they are in the usa and better support
I was worried with all the complaints this turbo had but never with mine.
So if price is something you think about then this turbo is a good option.
Checking in. Mine is just a weekend car and something for me to turn a wrench on so I haven't put 5k miles on the turbo yet. I should really get to a dyno or just use virtual dyno. This thing is powerful. I can say with the right setup, this Kinugawa 25g/TD06/11.5 with the Kinugawa Actuator and red spring can make tons of power. It hasn't given me any problems thankfully.



