PATCH: KNOCKCEL+NLTS+AltMap (V4)
That's great if the change in fuel and/or timimg requirements is linear. I just thought I'd put in my 2 cents for an option if it is not linear. I'll defer to the group that's doing the research on this. just throwing out ideas.
Originally Posted by Jack_of_Trades;
So set the LOW point and the HIGH point and have it just interpolate between those values? Kind of like a S-AFC? If you wanted it to be a simple on/off switch like it is now, all you would need to do is set both points to the same value so anything below that point is one map and anything above that point is the other map.
Here are some examples of what I think you mean in the attached pics.
Here are some examples of what I think you mean in the attached pics.
The three chart is exactly what I was hoping for.
I'm glad I understood what you were looking for, now only if this is what Tephra has in mind...or if he can even make this work.
Last edited by Jack_of_Trades; Feb 6, 2008 at 04:48 PM.
Originally Posted by Tek3Evo;
That's great if the change in fuel and/or timimg requirements is linear. I just thought I'd put in my 2 cents for an option if it is not linear. I'll defer to the group that's doing the research on this. just throwing out ideas.
Good point. If ratio of fuel flow and meth flow is kept constant, we can work on the stoichiometric ratio of the two fuels. Ignition can almost be differ by a few degrees.
Linearity is something one has to try by practical means but my guess it will not be that far off being linear. It is very new but also exciting.
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whats 15 for over 14?
anyway I think I will use the "load threshold" for ADC0F switching as well; ie you can't swap to ALTMAP's using ADC0F if the load is over a certain point.
This will stop potential disaster if your methbox is dodgey or whatever..
anyway I think I will use the "load threshold" for ADC0F switching as well; ie you can't swap to ALTMAP's using ADC0F if the load is over a certain point.
This will stop potential disaster if your methbox is dodgey or whatever..
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also doing interpolation wont be too hard - essentially :
* have a 2d table for mapping Volts to interpolation factor
* overwrite the octane number with the output from the above
* overwrite the low octane map with the non-alt-map highoctane map
* use the standard fuel+timing routines to do the interpolation for us.
but I wont do it in this release because its still quite of lot of work, background checking on octane value and all
* have a 2d table for mapping Volts to interpolation factor
* overwrite the octane number with the output from the above
* overwrite the low octane map with the non-alt-map highoctane map
* use the standard fuel+timing routines to do the interpolation for us.
but I wont do it in this release because its still quite of lot of work, background checking on octane value and all
I disagree with this because usually when you'd run out of meth or something would fail would be when your at WOT. This is when you want the failsafe the MOST!
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notice how i said swap "to" altmaps. 
swapping back to standard maps wont have any restrictions - it will just do it as soon as the Volts drop below the threshold!

swapping back to standard maps wont have any restrictions - it will just do it as soon as the Volts drop below the threshold!
Yeah, I just walked away and then realized that was probably your intention,lol. So it can trigger the safer maps but it can't go back to the more aggressive maps under it goes below the load threshold. Gotcha.
also doing interpolation wont be too hard - essentially :
* have a 2d table for mapping Volts to interpolation factor
* overwrite the octane number with the output from the above
* overwrite the low octane map with the non-alt-map highoctane map
* use the standard fuel+timing routines to do the interpolation for us.
but I wont do it in this release because its still quite of lot of work, background checking on octane value and all
* have a 2d table for mapping Volts to interpolation factor
* overwrite the octane number with the output from the above
* overwrite the low octane map with the non-alt-map highoctane map
* use the standard fuel+timing routines to do the interpolation for us.
but I wont do it in this release because its still quite of lot of work, background checking on octane value and all

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i will have to re-read what you mean about the S-AFC, but anything is possible 
Just getting back to flipping to aggressive maps, should I add a timer so that you need to below that load threshold for XXX ms before it will go to aggressive maps?
if not then you could shift (which would drop your load) and then the ecu would goto aggresive... which would be bad.
So I am thinking of utilising the AutoICS timer for going to aggressive with ADC0f..
u know what I mean?

Just getting back to flipping to aggressive maps, should I add a timer so that you need to below that load threshold for XXX ms before it will go to aggressive maps?
if not then you could shift (which would drop your load) and then the ecu would goto aggresive... which would be bad.
So I am thinking of utilising the AutoICS timer for going to aggressive with ADC0f..
u know what I mean?
Hmm, good point. Maybe the additional timer would be helpful. If the failsafe triggers reset when everything is fine again, you'd be running meth on a far less aggressive map so if it reset to more aggressive map it might be fine. You'd just feel like you triggered some NOS,lol.
As long as its not switching back and forth a ton of times in a row, I think it would be fine.
As long as its not switching back and forth a ton of times in a row, I think it would be fine.
Last edited by Jack_of_Trades; Feb 6, 2008 at 06:34 PM.



