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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:48 PM
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i'm going to give that a shot tomorrow morning first thing. you have it at about -15? i can't see your maps
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Old Jul 10, 2009 | 04:56 PM
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those are not my maps, but mine is at -20...it tapers like in the sample maps (very very similar)

if you are able to copy the bottom map exactly (timing, air injection etc) and your air injection works, you will have something good.

Lets hope it works!
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 08:54 PM
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4wdrifter, how are you doing?
Any news? If solenoid is opening, then everything is alright... Have you checked banjo bolts holes diameter? How many milimeters diameter?
Please, give him some ALS maps, because I feel guilty, as I sold him all ALS hardware stuff He needs activate it...
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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 11:27 PM
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i need some als hardware how much that stuff run? pm me if u can get another set and where did u get the code for usdm 8
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by spdracr
i need some als hardware how much that stuff run? pm me if u can get another set and where did u get the code for usdm 8
It hasnt even been done yet for an 8.
the list of materials needed are in this thread. it isnt cheap.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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i will make it work lol are u using the 7 rom in the 8? is that how u got the tables at least
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 12:09 PM
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I am a 9.
my ALS tune is a one off....I am still using the USDM rom.

4wdrifter is trying to get his to work with a JDM/UKDM evo 7 ecu flash (ralliart).
He will be the first with a USDM 8 if he can get it to work.

if you are looking for parts then lancer register and yahoo auctions japan or Ebay UK are a good place to start.

if you cant find a SAS sensor then you will have to do something creative.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:26 PM
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i am using the 7 rom on the 8. you will just need to get the periphery codes to turn off a couple ses codes you will get. o2 heater curcuit is the main one.
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Old Jul 13, 2009 | 02:30 PM
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why dont you go with a Jdm 8 rom?

just curious...might solve some of your problems.

I have an standard jdm 8 rom...it is 106 kb...limit is 100kb on here lol

sent you a PM.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 05:37 PM
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i checked all the standard 8 maps and not a single one has the ALS tables on it. i think i might have it working just need to retard the timing to check it for sure. i will keep you guys updated but am out of town til friday.
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Old Jul 14, 2009 | 05:42 PM
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that is strange, they should be on there. oh well no worries.

yea you need negative timing. start with -10 -10 -8 or something like that (in the box).
once it gets hot it will work well.

as long as you dont let it go for an excessive amount you should be ok.

you will get only one weak pop with just the air...if that.
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:24 AM
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i have mine setup with just fuel and timing no sas hardware yet or tables for that matter and i get a lot of pops and bangs and sometimes flames lol gotta track down some sas hardware
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Old Jul 15, 2009 | 12:29 AM
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start with the UK sites. especially ebay uk.

do you have a vid of what yours sounds like?
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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still not working. i think aside from getting an ECU that i know will run it i might throw the towel in. i'm going to see if i can find a EDM or JDM ecu that hopefully will get it to work.
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Old Jul 18, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 4wdrifter
still not working. i think aside from getting an ECU that i know will run it i might throw the towel in. i'm going to see if i can find a EDM or JDM ecu that hopefully will get it to work.
I looked at the wiring diagrams for a few Evo 8s that have SAS hardware, and the ECU wiring is completely different than a USDM Evo 8. Its so different that I doubt a USDM car would run if it had one of these ROMs. If you car runs with the RA ROM, the ECU wiring must be closer, but something must be different. If someone can get me a Lancer Evo Ralliart VII or Evo Ralliart VIII factory service manual, I can tell you if the wiring is different and whether pins can be switched around to make it work.
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