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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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We get ethanol over here, but only in 10% concentrations so we have not had to spend any major efforts into custom tuning for it.

The fan controls could have been wrong. As I originally posted, my rom used the 3 column table and while I was looking around saw the 9 column table in the evo 9. Both use the same temperature scale, and both look the same, and not having another car at the time to check I just posted it up for others to test. Later searching showed the 3 column maps to be in the other roms too so I would be playing with that map first for fan control.

675e should get you out of trouble for the Load scale.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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Disabling that ignition table definitely had an effect; the car basically ran like garbage while idling/warming up (unresponsive throttle, stumbling, etc). At some point when I have more time, I may play around a bit with this.

It didn't help with cranking start, though, which got me thinking: none of these tables are going to have much of an effect on the act of actually starting the car, will they?

I wonder if advancing the exhaust timing a few degrees wouldn't help a bit (not exactly the high-performance choice, but perhaps more appropriate to an ethanol-based fuel). Too bad I don't have adjustable cam gears to try this out...

But at this point, I should probably move this to the alternative fuels forum, since it doesn't have much to do with the new maps discussion.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by logic
Disabling that ignition table definitely had an effect; the car basically ran like garbage while idling/warming up (unresponsive throttle, stumbling, etc). At some point when I have more time, I may play around a bit with this.

It didn't help with cranking start, though, which got me thinking: none of these tables are going to have much of an effect on the act of actually starting the car, will they?

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Do you mean the warm up timing trim tables? I disabled the warmup trim setting periphery0 bit9 = 0 and found that the car ran better when cold (temps currently are 50-60s in the morning).
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Hey, has anyone confirmed any of the maps yet? Thermo Fans? Ignition Trims? Anyone played with the Decel Delays for the cars with throttle hang problems?

Where's the feedback???
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mattjin

675e should get you out of trouble for the Load scale.
I don't understand much of the code-end of this so I don't know what you mean by 675e. Are you suggesting I replace the "Scaling = "Load"" with "Scaling = "675e"" ?
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 05:25 AM
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using bit9 to disable the coldstart works fine.

the ONLY problem is sometimes the idle will rev upto 2k in a cold cold morning...
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tephra
using bit9 to disable the coldstart works fine.

the ONLY problem is sometimes the idle will rev upto 2k in a cold cold morning...
Yeah that's what mine does as well.....starts at 1500 cold idle then after I start to drive and stop again the cold idle sits at 2000. Small price to pay for the car running 99.9% better on a cold motor
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 06:22 AM
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yeah i'm not fused either way.. car warms up pretty damn quick... good for really cold climates thou not so bad in AU
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 06:41 AM
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What is the current temp there Tephra? I am heading your way in a few weeks for work.

Sorry for the off-topic, can't pm Teph.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 07:54 AM
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I can't test anything at the moment, as my car is dead
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 09:01 AM
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Do you mean the warm up timing trim tables?
No, the 3D table and 2D control table that Mattjin and I were discussing a few posts up for 96530006. I changed all of the 255 values to 0 for the control table, and noticed a lot of bucking and sputtering at startup as a result. I didn't have much time to spend looking into it more, however.
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I disabled the warmup trim setting periphery0 bit9 = 0 and found that the car ran better when cold (temps currently are 50-60s in the morning).
When temps get back down again, I'll give this a try, it sounds like a perfectly acceptable solution.

Interestingly, the 2000 RPM idle problem is something I noticed when I was in central Canada a few weeks ago running on 91 octane again. This is on 96530006 (on a car originally equipped with 96940011), with periphery0-bit9 set to 1 (default). Weird.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tephra
using bit9 to disable the coldstart works fine.

the ONLY problem is sometimes the idle will rev upto 2k in a cold cold morning...
Mine does that too.

Another thing: I swear that the car idles better now when warmed up. There's no reason why it should, because the code shouldn't affect idle. Maybe its the cooler daytime temperatures.
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Old Sep 12, 2008 | 04:24 PM
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nah mine still idles rough - like an evo :P

Did u have a chance to look at by FAA bit10 discovery?

I will be doing some more road testing today so hopefully the car will feel like magic
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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I don't understand much of the code-end of this so I don't know what you mean by 675e. Are you suggesting I replace the "Scaling = "Load"" with "Scaling = "675e"" ?
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Old Sep 14, 2008 | 03:44 PM
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Keep playing, you will figure it out.
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