Good things if you are making 363whp/375wtq on a dynojet with our tune and minimal mods...That is pretty stout imo.

 

yea but pete I made 375tq on dd and 375tq on a dynojet isn't that weird? Where is the loss?

 

Torque is always a little weird coming from different dynos.

Do you know the difference between a dyno dynamics and a dynojet?

Our dyno is a load bearing dyno. It operates a little different then your dynojet which basically determines hp by how fast you can spin a wheel...That is pretty general but you can get the idea.

Our dyno produces a load and also stabilizes the car before letting it ramp up or accelerate through the rpm range. Have you ever noticed how fast a car can run through a 3rd or 4th gear pull on a dynojet compared to our dyno..

Basically these are two different dynos. You are making killer freakin hp/tq for the minimal mods you have. Anyone would be happy with your power and torque output!

360whp/375wtq and your complaining? That is some real power and remember who got you there.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with your tune and I know there is really nothing left to be made "safely". I have tuned your setup numerous times and so has Charlie. Any further tuning can and will create some problems for you down the road if you push it much further.

 

DG Motors might have messed up.

But man, IDRINKV8'S and XEVOX08 seem to have the most absurd posts on this forum. From the 4th grade grammar, to the 6th grade bashing.......this totally makes me partial to what DG is implying about these guys.

IDRINKV8'S seems to have a magical dyno number stuck in his head. I truly hope you shoot a rod through your block, so it can shut you up for a minute.

If the OP wasn't so obnoxious, I probably would be bashing DG, but since this post reeks of ****, I think the OP is full of it as well.

 

Explain how we may have messed up? Both cars ran flawlessly with 0 issues. Our tuner at the time felt the car was pushed enough at the time when the customer wanted to push his car more. The tuner has the option of either pushing the car until failure or giving his experienced word the car is where he wants to leave it. Unfortunately it put me in a bad position but I was not tuning the car at the time. Now the car gets re-tuned and made 50whp more before the clutch started slipping on a dynojet. Room was left on the table and now more power was made. There is nothing wrong with any of this but the car made some more power from another tuner who may feel it is safe at 500whp with a bone stock bottom end.

This car doesn't even have rod bolts, who is to say the car will last a month at this power level? This car could last years but we aren't taking that liability and we all know where the finger would get pointed if the car happened to blow up right? We have never blown a single motor up and that is how we would like to keep it. We have had one rod-bolt related failure since owning this dyno and that was due to the customer cranking his own mbc way past 30+psi on a bone stock bottom end.

 

I am waiting for an answer on the CF issue too. I agree, it is really up to the tuner as to how far he wants to push the car. Even if the owner says he wants 500hp, if I owned a shop, I wouldn't want to push a car to its breaking point. Think about the liability he has now that the car has blown with the tune? At 500hp, you are playing a game of chance with your motor. Your choice, but I don't blame DG if he didn't want to push it over the edge. As for the other issues, and how it felt, of course I can't comment, but if your numbers were accurate, and the tuner felt that was enough and didn't want to play and risk blowing the shortblock, then that is fine...

I however, was most upset to see the CF numbers on the other HTA Green thread. Now THAT is scamming, and the other member caught it. I just want to know what the deal was with that issue, these just seem like a customer who wanted more power, and DG didn't want to blow something up.

 

^ I was referring to the Correction Factor of the dyno.

I am not saying you are 100% at fault in this whole fiasco. The OP seems to be the customer from hell!

 

Things can change over time Jimmy. The graph was perfectly fine here, the car never ever broke up and drove silky smooth. Maybe the plugs needed to be gapped down a bit due to the colder weather who knows, the car was tuned in mid-summer with a 90+ degree dyno bay, everyone was wearing tee-shirts. It is now mid 40's at best, owners of vehicles need to do a little maintenance here and there..

 

so let me get this straight the op wants 500+whp and over 400+ TQ on stock bottom end. Dont forget you have stock Clutch. Hell we all know the stocker clutch will not hold that so why get tuned for that? yea good luck with that i dont blame DG for being the responsible one and not doing your wishes. Wonder whats going to happen if he tosses a rod with the new tune playing with fire like that will we see another Third grade thread about how its the new tuners fault.

 

Who is to say Charlie put a pump gas map in the car? Do you know the difference between a pump gas map and an alcohol tuned map?

Maybe timing was a little conservative but 12.0 a/f does not seem like a pump gas map to me

Show me this pump gas map!

 

Yes! But now, DG, What the hell happened with the HTA Green CF factor? Are you going to come clean about fudging those numbers or what?

 

The customer wanted more power it's his car and his money. His car is at 489hp and very safe ask 4kinboost....

 

Erkel will explain to you if you like Pete...

 

Here we are: August 12th after working on Luke's car all day, It is a Friday night.

What does the clock say in the video?

1 A.M

Wow, we stayed past 1 a.m to finish your car up so you can enjoy it all weekend long instead of closing shop after working a long hot/humid week....

Car seemed to run smooth to me? Maybe I am wrong?

Check it out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSlABe3Cj1k

The car also seemed to make peak boost around 4,100rpm and the graph is pretty darn clean as well..

 

lol. I never saw the fp green thread nor read it so i cant attack that one. I have read all of this thread and all the personal BS being bought up that is stupid and people on the internet dont need to know. Do i think DG did something wrong. HELL YA i do but do i think there tune would have ruined his car. NOPE. the car was drivable just not fast to the ops liking due to him wanting this magical 500whp which means nothing to be honest you really want more TQ but anyways somebody has to be responsible for others that dont want to listen to reason every car is different. just because you add meth does not mean instant 500. the only correction factor thread i saw was when BR was all over DG about there number on there old car and he said he moved the correction. That right there tells me they are willing to do it so once you shows signs of doing it not hard to imagine that playing a role with paying customers