MAP EF4 e85 built 2L tuned by tscompusa/vr-speed
more info on that evo in here https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...no-inside.html
now his goal is to beat that evo from a roll
.. roll i can see it happening but not a dig.. the drivers to talented to get beat from a dig. hes taken out 9 second GTR's on the street already.
now his goal is to beat that evo from a roll
.. roll i can see it happening but not a dig.. the drivers to talented to get beat from a dig. hes taken out 9 second GTR's on the street already.You can quit making stuff up now.
there will be another run soon here with a switzer E900 GTR that is high 9 sec capable as well with the new launch control just released. without the launch control he ran 10 flat at 142.
Last edited by tscompusa2; Sep 7, 2011 at 09:55 PM.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...ck-sd-e85.html (hits 460tq 900rpm sooner)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...black-e85.html
(hits 460tq 400 rpm sooner but pull was started at 4500)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-er-tuned.html
(hits 460tq 1000rpm sooner, but it is 2.3 which speeds spool by~400) (hitting 300tq at 3700!)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-589ftlbs.html (another stroker, but 460tq at 3650RPM) WOW
apparently you have been ignoring all the nice black dyno graphs. I guess just keep looking at the slow spooling incorrectly setup ones. if it makes you happy and wins you arguments.
I am done here. The EF4 is a lag monster from where I am sitting.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...black-e85.html
(hits 460tq 400 rpm sooner but pull was started at 4500)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-er-tuned.html
(hits 460tq 1000rpm sooner, but it is 2.3 which speeds spool by~400) (hitting 300tq at 3700!)
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...-589ftlbs.html (another stroker, but 460tq at 3650RPM) WOW
apparently you have been ignoring all the nice black dyno graphs. I guess just keep looking at the slow spooling incorrectly setup ones. if it makes you happy and wins you arguments.
I am done here. The EF4 is a lag monster from where I am sitting.
Also you are basing this argument off of one tested EF4 thats still in beta form that is still being fine tuned , comparing it to shop cars ,
You sir are nothing short of brilliant your brain appears to be laggy , but thanks for the laugh.
If you would have said the EF4 looks to spool100-200 RPM slower then the Black but looks to maybe pick up some top end i would agree with you 100%
getsideways it is done now. if you want you can put this graph in your thread for a ef4 result on a 2L engine: http://oi52.tinypic.com/5z2wev.jpg - just mention i tuned it please.
theres no more timing to get from this car.. but it'll make more power with more boost for sure
but i think he wants to keep it where it is for now.
he did change bov also, maybe its making a bit more HP now. either way i dont think the turbos to bad.
theres no more timing to get from this car.. but it'll make more power with more boost for sure
but i think he wants to keep it where it is for now.he did change bov also, maybe its making a bit more HP now. either way i dont think the turbos to bad.
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Nice work. You can tell there is more left in the turbo just by looking at the graph.
There is no way the power will keep climbing at 7900 rpm if the turbo was maxed...
Just get it to hold 37 psi
There is no way the power will keep climbing at 7900 rpm if the turbo was maxed...
Just get it to hold 37 psi
like evo 3 going to 35R . your smokin crack. this EF4 may be bigger than a black but its not that much bigger. and the question is is it better? I think its not even in the same ballpark. meaning the black is worlds better. RYU car made 570 tq on stock evo 9 block at 4100 rpm. and that was on pump gas/alky. e85 spools faster and makes more power. this rev4 made max 460 as early as 5400rpm. THATS FUGGIN LAGGY.
plus you guys are dumb to think you can just keep making the wheels bigger to make a better turbo out of housings made for 300whp. the black is already too big. in order to max the black out you have to destroy the spool by eliminating the twin scroll in an effort to reduce hotside back pressure.
for me this turbo is a turd. take it or leave it. love it if you want. I could care less if you want to make you car no fun.
plus you guys are dumb to think you can just keep making the wheels bigger to make a better turbo out of housings made for 300whp. the black is already too big. in order to max the black out you have to destroy the spool by eliminating the twin scroll in an effort to reduce hotside back pressure.
for me this turbo is a turd. take it or leave it. love it if you want. I could care less if you want to make you car no fun.
When pulling away from traffic light you HAVE to rev through the 2500-4000 rpm powerband. if the car feels anemic in that area then hits like gang busters you have created a boring to drive car.
this is an awesome 600whp turbo graph looks like:
blows away the new EF4 which are both new to market turbos. new turbos should always improve on the old designs. if they dont they are failures.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...yno-graph.html
Last edited by 94AWDcoupe; Sep 8, 2011 at 09:48 AM.
Racing is when two cars really try, so when you beat a car that is faster it wasn't a race.
I like power as everyone does. But I like it to not ruin the car. 90% of of builds on this board make me throw up. LAG is EVERYTHING with a turbo car. Yes I believe the black is a drag only turbo. Its laggy for a fun street car. And that is after driving the fastest spooling black this board has not seen a dyno graph of.
When pulling away from traffic light you HAVE to rev through the 2500-4000 rpm powerband. if the car feels anemic in that area then hits like gang busters you have created a boring to drive car.
this is an awesome 600whp turbo graph looks like:
blows away the new EF4 which are both new to market turbos. new turbos should always improve on the old designs. if they dont they are failures.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...yno-graph.html
When pulling away from traffic light you HAVE to rev through the 2500-4000 rpm powerband. if the car feels anemic in that area then hits like gang busters you have created a boring to drive car.
this is an awesome 600whp turbo graph looks like:
blows away the new EF4 which are both new to market turbos. new turbos should always improve on the old designs. if they dont they are failures.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...yno-graph.html
this is an awesome 600whp turbo graph looks like:
blows away the new EF4 which are both new to market turbos. new turbos should always improve on the old designs. if they dont they are failures.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...yno-graph.html
blows away the new EF4 which are both new to market turbos. new turbos should always improve on the old designs. if they dont they are failures.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/ev...yno-graph.html
Obviously you haven't driven in a car with an ef4 cause my car doesn't feel that way at all comming off a light. Infact the min I can get off the clutch in first gear hit second gear I can make the power come on pretty easily. And another thing who the **** really worrys about anything under 4k anyways when there getting on it?
i was told he did race the switzer e900 and obviously got pulled on. but seeing the video and seeing how much gap there is between cars is still something very interesting to see.. it gives us an idea how a 580whp~ evo fairs against a 800whp GTR.
I have not seen footage of it yet though myself.
Last edited by tscompusa2; Sep 8, 2011 at 03:30 PM. Reason: typo
I like power as everyone does. But I like it to not ruin the car. 90% of of builds on this board make me throw up.
When pulling away from traffic light you HAVE to rev through the 2500-4000 rpm powerband. if the car feels anemic in that area then hits like gang busters you have created a boring to drive car.
When pulling away from traffic light you HAVE to rev through the 2500-4000 rpm powerband. if the car feels anemic in that area then hits like gang busters you have created a boring to drive car.
You my friend are an idiot. Do you really go wide open from every streetlight?
If you want all that low end power go buy a Camaro.
+1
Last edited by S13 Curtis; Sep 8, 2011 at 05:23 PM.