New Bolt in turbo... FP White Rabbit.
There was never any statement on using bolts on the 02 housing side, just on the exhaust housing to manifold, to allow easier install/removal of the manifold. This is what my original statement read. There were a few that misread that.
To answer the question, it would be easier to use the stock setup on the 02 housing, simply because the 2 studs hold the 02 housing on through installation/removal.
I dont have a problem with using studs, but when I can use bolts instead to make life easier, I do. Work smarter, not harder. You can order the turbo to mani bolts from Mitsu, they are the same as the other 2 bolts used. I've just seen far worse outcomes from using stud/nut setups on the turbo to mani than from using all four bolts. I've seen where the nut 'welds' (as Az3ar puts it) itself to the stud and it basically becomes a bolt anyway because it unthreads the stud from the exh housing, or the nut strips the stud. Then you have to drill out the stud, it's a mess.
To answer the question, it would be easier to use the stock setup on the 02 housing, simply because the 2 studs hold the 02 housing on through installation/removal.
I dont have a problem with using studs, but when I can use bolts instead to make life easier, I do. Work smarter, not harder. You can order the turbo to mani bolts from Mitsu, they are the same as the other 2 bolts used. I've just seen far worse outcomes from using stud/nut setups on the turbo to mani than from using all four bolts. I've seen where the nut 'welds' (as Az3ar puts it) itself to the stud and it basically becomes a bolt anyway because it unthreads the stud from the exh housing, or the nut strips the stud. Then you have to drill out the stud, it's a mess.
Originally Posted by tcarretti
Ditto, keeping fingers crossed that my install goes as planned tomorrow and then in the afternoon on the dyno. Will be posting before and after numbers to try to give a good account of what this thing can do. Then have to drive it back to San Antonio from Austin so I should have a good feeling for it by then.
Keep you all posted.......
Tony
Keep you all posted.......
Tony
Originally Posted by nickracer9
thanks forced performance for shutting up az3ar!
When i have time later on i will post on how to remove studs from housings in how tos
Don't want to jinx myself, but if all goes well I should be ON THE DYNO exactly 24 hours from now. This is the same one that I dynoed on last time with all the same mods EXCEPT the WR turbo.
It's a low reading Mustang. To give you an idea, two months prior I dynoed at FIS with 325 HP and 300 TQ and on this dyno with nothing different dynoed 272 HP and 260 TQ. Quite a difference in numbers. I'm hoping that with the WR turbo on 93 octane I might get anywhere from 330-340 HP which should put me where I want to be. Then and only then, will I unleash the ALCOHOL!!!!!
Waiting sucks ****........
Tony
It's a low reading Mustang. To give you an idea, two months prior I dynoed at FIS with 325 HP and 300 TQ and on this dyno with nothing different dynoed 272 HP and 260 TQ. Quite a difference in numbers. I'm hoping that with the WR turbo on 93 octane I might get anywhere from 330-340 HP which should put me where I want to be. Then and only then, will I unleash the ALCOHOL!!!!!
Waiting sucks ****........
Tony
Turbine inlet - skip the studs and purchase two of the OEM bolts that are used. Upon installation use 4 of the OEM bolts instead of 2 studs and 2 bolts. It is easier to use 4 OEM bolts for R&R of the turbo. Studs complicate things, and the OEM bolts are the strongest high carbon nolts you will find anywhere.
can you read this? it has 2 bolts and 2 studs!!!!!!! know you take the 2 studs out and put 2 bolts in there place. DO YOU UNDERSTAND az3ar?
can you read this? it has 2 bolts and 2 studs!!!!!!! know you take the 2 studs out and put 2 bolts in there place. DO YOU UNDERSTAND az3ar?
Last edited by nickracer9; Jun 29, 2005 at 01:13 PM.
People
come on your buying a 1600 turbo
and you want to save $30 on studs ??!?!?!!!
why ask so much question JUST follow the OE mitsubishi specs. 2 studs/2 bolts
it's proven evo's turbo don't fall off
come on your buying a 1600 turbo
and you want to save $30 on studs ??!?!?!!!
why ask so much question JUST follow the OE mitsubishi specs. 2 studs/2 bolts
it's proven evo's turbo don't fall off
Originally Posted by superman105
People
come on your buying a 1600 turbo
and you want to save $30 on studs ??!?!?!!!
come on your buying a 1600 turbo
and you want to save $30 on studs ??!?!?!!!

Anyhow, on that note, what grade of antiseize do you need on the studs/bolts? It seems like the high temp stuff comes in copper (1800 degrees) and nickel (2400 degrees). The copper is about $4 a can but the nickel is $14 (and hard to find). I'll spend the extra $10 and canvas the area looking for it if I have to, but if I can just use the copper stuff from the local NAPA I'd rather do that.
I'm installing my WR on Saturday morning and am gathering all the miscellaneous junk that I'll need.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
Hey that's race gas money...every little bit counts 
Anyhow, on that note, what grade of antiseize do you need on the studs/bolts? It seems like the high temp stuff comes in copper (1800 degrees) and nickel (2400 degrees). The copper is about $4 a can but the nickel is $14 (and hard to find). I'll spend the extra $10 and canvas the area looking for it if I have to, but if I can just use the copper stuff from the local NAPA I'd rather do that.
I'm installing my WR on Saturday morning and am gathering all the miscellaneous junk that I'll need.
Thanks.

Anyhow, on that note, what grade of antiseize do you need on the studs/bolts? It seems like the high temp stuff comes in copper (1800 degrees) and nickel (2400 degrees). The copper is about $4 a can but the nickel is $14 (and hard to find). I'll spend the extra $10 and canvas the area looking for it if I have to, but if I can just use the copper stuff from the local NAPA I'd rather do that.
I'm installing my WR on Saturday morning and am gathering all the miscellaneous junk that I'll need.
Thanks.
Originally Posted by EVO8LTW
Anyhow, on that note, what grade of antiseize do you need on the studs/bolts? It seems like the high temp stuff comes in copper (1800 degrees) and nickel (2400 degrees). The copper is about $4 a can but the nickel is $14 (and hard to find). I'll spend the extra $10 and canvas the area looking for it if I have to, but if I can just use the copper stuff from the local NAPA I'd rather do that.
I'm installing my WR on Saturday morning and am gathering all the miscellaneous junk that I'll need.
Thanks.
I'm installing my WR on Saturday morning and am gathering all the miscellaneous junk that I'll need.
Thanks.






