Dyno'd at EIP Motorsports SJ, CA w/ Mustang AWD Dyno:

Baseline TBE before tune:
211 whp
238 wtq

TBE After ECUFlash Dyno Tune:

290 whp
305 wtq

 

What software????? 79whp and 67wtq from just a flash????? that seems a bit high 91 octane on both runs?

 

That's not a normal baseline for a 9 on that dyno, usually they do 235whp or so. Something was not right with his car when he brought it in. We had a discussion about this on norcalevo.

 

and as i said on norcalevo.net (damn they are down again)...could of been stock ecu being confused or whatever, but the numbers don't lie.

this was 91 octane pump gas on both runs...baseline was stock boost, after flash was around 21-22psi or so.

 

Yes the numbers don't lie. After the tune you are making normal power like all the other 9's with the same mods and tune. The fact is, that is not a normal baseline for a evo 9 on that dyno. I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

You came in with a car that wasn't making normal power. They fixed that part, then tuned it like the other 9's they have tuned and the result was in line with the other tuned evo9's.

I'm not badmouthing them in anyway, just saying your baseline is not normal.

 

I would disagree. Dyno's are all different. There are 9's making more power than he his is, tuned so i wouldn't say there was anything wrong with his car when it was brought in. Sounds to me like a freak car that just made really good power for the mods.

 

Would there be any benefit of a 3.5" TBE vs 3" TBE on a relatively stock IX???

I plan to see how much I can do on stock turbo on a budget....

Friend is doing most of the fab for me so all I have to do is tell him what size I want....

TBE should cost me around 700 w/ v-bands woohoo!!!

What standalone is best for the money??? And who in norcal is good at tuning it rofl

 

I think you fail to comprehend what transpired that day and assume a lot of things. Fact is, I came in bone stock, with nothing installed at all. After installing the TBE, we dyno'd it and came out with the baseline numbers. If your comprehension of this is my car sucks, so be it, but rather I would think the ECU is somewhat messed up (as affirmed by other members). Whatever the situation, the numbers, as you stated, are in line with normal IXs after the tune, which makes me believe that it was again, an ECU issue.

 

Unless your power requirements are beyond 400whp, I think 3" would suffice for the stock turbos (Speedelements tuned IX made 298whp after a tune with a 2.75" dp). The biggest issue is clearance of the oil pan, tie bars, and ACD w/ larger diameter piping, so u have to keep that in mind.

You don't really need a standalone unless you are going full race setup w/ injectors, manifold, turbos, etc.

For me, I would give Paul at EIP (408-998-1693) or Andy of Speed Element (510-226-8822) a call...highly recommend either of them!

 

On that dyno, his after tuned numbers are inline with other 9's tuned on that dyno. His baseline numbers however are low.

Why is this so hard to understand.

Here is another 9 that got tuned at EIP just yesterday, note the baseline. Also making even more power with less mods.
https://www.evolutionm.net/forums/sh...d.php?t=216826


ECU issue = car problem. I didn't say what it could have been, I said its possible the car had a problem that lead to the baseline.

I don't understand why we are still arguring about nothing.

 

I made +72whp with a 2.75" downpipe... I dont think 3" is really needed.

 

+1 , 2.75" is good enough and it actually maintains the low-end responsiveness and torque from what i can see on my rs .. i can't complain w/ almost 310lb/tq right now Kudos to Andy for tuning it!

 

I don't have a problem making 320+whp on a mustang with a 2.75" DP

 

yea I can really tell the low-end response is the SAME as the stock exhaust system. Its really nice indeed.

 

who was arguing lol...i had a simple post, which someone asked something. its just funny you know more about my car then me...