My buschur racing pump gas evo
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From: akrun, ohio
i have no problems with you posting any kind of footage you have of my car.
Hows your car doing?
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From: akrun, ohio
call me a buschur hater all you want if tat makes you happy. But to say I dont play with these cars every day is just an ignorant lack of fact. rather than challenge the facts he would prefer to just bash a persons character. nothing ever changes I guess.
here are more facts. well setup 35r car will make 625whp-650whp on race gas. On straight 93 octane florida gas it will struggle to make 450whp. my own personal car just made 622whp on 93/meth. without the meth running it was only able to muster 380whp before knock was present. my car is not the ideal example for this because it is setup to make enormous power early in the rpm band, when you make big power in the 4-5000rpm and it will be hard to keep detonation at bay. my car makes 567 tq. high torque/hp ratio means you are making high cylinder pressure early in the rpm band. far from ideal for making big pumpgas numbers. this is with crappy 93octane and meth injection. There are 3 large restrictions in my setup to make the car fun to drive rather than make the best whp. Those include a very quiet exhaust, a restrictive 8 runner intake manifold, a nearly stock head, and a 95 stock exhaust manifold. this is also on an early 4g63 that certainly lacks some of the other smaller improvements that came with later 4g63 evos.
not wanting to remove your incorrect statement of your car being the fastest is typical dave buschur attitude. if he wants to lie about being the fastest to achieve higher sales where do the lies start and stop?
There are all kinds of posts of evos making well over 600whp on 35r. Their pump gas numbers are always in the 450whp range because that is the practical limits of 93 ocatne. For a shop to say its easy to make over 550whp on 93octane is again worth repeating, DUMB.
here are more facts. well setup 35r car will make 625whp-650whp on race gas. On straight 93 octane florida gas it will struggle to make 450whp. my own personal car just made 622whp on 93/meth. without the meth running it was only able to muster 380whp before knock was present. my car is not the ideal example for this because it is setup to make enormous power early in the rpm band, when you make big power in the 4-5000rpm and it will be hard to keep detonation at bay. my car makes 567 tq. high torque/hp ratio means you are making high cylinder pressure early in the rpm band. far from ideal for making big pumpgas numbers. this is with crappy 93octane and meth injection. There are 3 large restrictions in my setup to make the car fun to drive rather than make the best whp. Those include a very quiet exhaust, a restrictive 8 runner intake manifold, a nearly stock head, and a 95 stock exhaust manifold. this is also on an early 4g63 that certainly lacks some of the other smaller improvements that came with later 4g63 evos.
not wanting to remove your incorrect statement of your car being the fastest is typical dave buschur attitude. if he wants to lie about being the fastest to achieve higher sales where do the lies start and stop?
There are all kinds of posts of evos making well over 600whp on 35r. Their pump gas numbers are always in the 450whp range because that is the practical limits of 93 ocatne. For a shop to say its easy to make over 550whp on 93octane is again worth repeating, DUMB.
Have you ever been to the DSM shootout? I am asking because if you come up, you and i can have a pump gas race, at the track of coarse. We can drive to the gas station, then head out to norwalk and make passes. It would be fun. Hell according to your sig, you should have me covered, unless its not a street car.
I think my car on the 93 will be close to 600 horse on a dynojet. I may have to put it on a dynojet just to see. If it makes over 600, you will just find something else negative to say.
Have you ever been to the DSM shootout? I am asking because if you come up, you and i can have a pump gas race, at the track of coarse. We can drive to the gas station, then head out to norwalk and make passes. It would be fun. Hell according to your sig, you should have me covered, unless its not a street car.
Have you ever been to the DSM shootout? I am asking because if you come up, you and i can have a pump gas race, at the track of coarse. We can drive to the gas station, then head out to norwalk and make passes. It would be fun. Hell according to your sig, you should have me covered, unless its not a street car.
I think a lot of people are missing a big point here. As CBRD mentioned earlier, most Evo's with GT35R's do NOT HAVE PORTED HEADS or have any type of head work done at all. Porting and polishing, along with oversized valves can make a HUGE increase in power, especially with huge turbos like the 35R. This alone could account for the abnormally freakish power levels.
I think a lot of people are missing a big point here. As CBRD mentioned earlier, most Evo's with GT35R's do NOT HAVE PORTED HEADS or have any type of head work done at all. Porting and polishing, along with oversized valves can make a HUGE increase in power, especially with huge turbos like the 35R. This alone could account for the abnormally freakish power levels.
finally someone gets it!!
its not as easy as slapping on a 35r kit and turning up the boost. its has thousands in the ecu and tunning, and 8k+ in the motor. none the less its an amazing setup! I've been tripping out about this for the last 3days! it even sounds strange to say it. "evo making 520whp on pump" bushur is amazing! keep up the truly amazing work!
I think a lot of people are missing a big point here. As CBRD mentioned earlier, most Evo's with GT35R's do NOT HAVE PORTED HEADS or have any type of head work done at all. Porting and polishing, along with oversized valves can make a HUGE increase in power, especially with huge turbos like the 35R. This alone could account for the abnormally freakish power levels.
Some of these variables are details that no one has asked (e.g. what is the static CR? What is the size of the turbine housing? Is there anything else, large or small, that could be regarded as atypical? etc.), while some are problematic for anyone to answer with empirical accuracy (e.g. Just how safe is the tune?).
At any rate, understanding the mechanics of the what and why usually involves information that goes beyond a basic upgrades description.
I hate to sound like a smart ***, but I don't think a GT35R should be considered a "huge" turbo. A GT47.... now THAT is a big turbo. Makes a GT35R look like a 1987 stock Volvo turbo.
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I would love to see this go down, hell I will even pay for the 93 Pump gas
When you have the right setup and the Best tuner the WHP result's are going to be high and David did just that
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94AWDCoupe...do you even tune your car? I thought Brad Brooks tuned it when you made those last numbers you quoted in your last post.
Sorry dude, but you come off as a disgruntled person. I would take up on Trent's challenge.
Sorry dude, but you come off as a disgruntled person. I would take up on Trent's challenge.