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Old May 9, 2008 | 05:09 AM
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Can you do the FP4R next? Or are you guys saving that and FP5R for last on purpose?
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Old May 9, 2008 | 06:00 AM
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Martin we have waited way to long for the next graph! We demand more!
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Old May 9, 2008 | 10:08 AM
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Martin is at autobahn testing right now but he should be back very soon. I will make sure he gets another graph up today.

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Old May 9, 2008 | 01:26 PM
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Just added the Brian Crower stage 2 cams (272's)
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Old May 9, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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Those BC Cams are sad
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Old May 9, 2008 | 02:12 PM
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I am very interested in the Brian Crower stage 3 (280"s) and what you had to degree them too. That is the cam I am running for now.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 02:32 PM
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Why no HKS 280's?
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:09 PM
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I'm sure he didn't have time to test every single cam available for the Evo.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:11 PM
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Just curious why not HSK 280s over hks 272s?
I just thought that HKS 280's make more power than HKS 272s on top...
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Cirrusly Evolvd
I'm sure he didn't have time to test every single cam available for the Evo.
i agree here. i'm sure no one has bothered to fathom the cost of such a test.

also for those who didn't read the turbo article, they mentioned about how too aggressive of a cam wears out drivetrain parts. some cams can wear out parts in 5000 miles!!! cams w/more than 12mm lift run the risk of smacking the valve cover. alot of people here in the US focus on PEAK power, & should focus on USEABLE power. for example, a guy running a 2.4 w/a gt37R only has about 3000rpm of useable power, vs the guy w/a 2liter & same turbo might have up to 5 or 6000rpm of useable power assuming both blocks built...


the best way to shop for a cam is to look at the curve, not the specs. u want a cam curve that looks like an arch, not a pyramid. tomei is solid yes, & most people running 350-600whp could benefit from the tomei 270 pros w/out losing as much low end drivability. i used to want tomei 280's until i realized they only make sense for drag monsters pushing 600whp+. instead i will stick with JUN 272's or Dentist Mapped 276's which would include all JUN drivetrain internals which brings up my other point. alot of ppl 1/2ass cam installs & then wonder y their car runs like bubu. just like a turbokit u need all the supporting parts. a cam job done right would take an additonal $3k in extra parts to extract the most power...
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Old May 9, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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You are very correct, that was a little more in depth on what i said earlier in this thread. the point of this test was not to pick the cam that makes the most peak power but rather to use this as a guide so customers can go back and view this thread when looking for a cam that suits their needs the best.

Eric
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Old May 9, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Awesome, which it is doing a good job of.
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Old May 9, 2008 | 07:17 PM
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I wonder if they saved the best ones for last???
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Old May 9, 2008 | 07:21 PM
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judging by what the tomei's made i am going to guess.. NO
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Old May 9, 2008 | 07:23 PM
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Will this guide still be usefull for other applications such as stock ix turbo? (spool and curve wise)

I think its awesome you guys are doing the testing for the community. Big thanks!
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