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Old Feb 5, 2010, 08:04 PM
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I don't know if any one touch on this subject but the HKS TWIN DISK is not gonna hold alot of power..
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I don't know if any one touch on this subject but the HKS TWIN DISK is not gonna hold alot of power..
who has an hks twin disc? i dont
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Old Feb 6, 2010, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by hazdaddy View Post
i think saying 272's are kinda like saying i have a 396 in my chevelle, seeing as i am being pretty specific. if i would have said i have aftermarket CAMS, that would have been like saying i have a big block in my chevelle


but just to be more specific, they're hks
HKS 272s is specific yes. They are kind of small by todays standards but they manage to get it done.

GSC272s (the older ones not the S2s)
Brian Crower 272s
Buddy Club 272
HKS 272s
Comp 272s
JUN 272s
BR272
BF272
Tomei 272
Helix 272
OBX 272 (dont actually know anyone that ever used these)
Greddy 272

There are ALOT of "272" cams out there, thats why saying 272 isnt very specific. The difference between a BC272 (brian crower) and JUN 272s is immense. Pretty much as big a difference as a 396, 477, or a 632 in my Chevelle. Thank you for clarifying though
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Originally Posted by JohnBradley View Post
HKS 272s is specific yes. They are kind of small by todays standards but they manage to get it done.

GSC272s (the older ones not the S2s)
Brian Crower 272s
Buddy Club 272
HKS 272s
Comp 272s
JUN 272s
BR272
BF272
Tomei 272
Helix 272
OBX 272 (dont actually know anyone that ever used these)
Greddy 272

There are ALOT of "272" cams out there, thats why saying 272 isnt very specific. The difference between a BC272 (brian crower) and JUN 272s is immense. Pretty much as big a difference as a 396, 477, or a 632 in my Chevelle. Thank you for clarifying though

to be quite honest, i had no idea there was THAT much of a difference in 272's in reference to brand. the only cams i ever researched a lot about were in my ls1 camaro. i was always more of a muscle car guy, but realized that i live in pa and we get hammered by snow, and i like windy roads. but a 224 cam from comp cams for an ls1 is pretty close to the same as one from thunder racing. thats why i was a little confused so sorry if i came off as a dick.

if you were gonna recommend a cam setup for my car, any suggestions for me? it is a daily driver, i care more about streetability than power in the long run.


and for the record, the car came with the 272's when i bought it, or else i'd know more about them lol. i would have researched before i bought them
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i've heard good things about crower cams.... but i'd appreciate some info from people who have a couple different combos (preferably similar to the rest of my setup)
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There are 2 crowers, the old school crower we know from domestics and Brian Crower which is the kid's company. Totally not the same operation as far as results. The Crower cams that you can get for DSMs are a good product, nothing for Evos yet. For your setup the cams I pick depend on what power I really want to make and where in the power band. I normally am the guy at says GSC S2 and stops there. The S2 is a great cam for power up top and through the mid range but has some minor things with idle that some find hard to tune out. S1s are good all around cams and make really good power to about 7500 with a Red.

Cams all have different lift values, ramp rates, duration at .050, etc. One 272 to another for instance-

HKS 272 - 272/272 10.8/10.2mm lift, [email protected] .040 (1mm)

GSC S2 - 274/274 11.2/11.0mm lift, 230 @ .040 (1mm)

So you can see advertised duration doesnt always tell the whole story. I didnt take it wrong, I have been where you are before Makes it easier if someone is willing to explain it though I have found. Even in domestics, a roller 272 (if there were one that small) versus a flat tappet or hydraulic 272 are pretty different.
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im looking for somewhere in the neighborhood of 400-450whp (dynojet) and just a reliable and fun street car. i appreciate you dealing with my 4 cyl cam ignorance. for instance i had a 224/230 .601/.612 cam in my ls1 with a 112 lsa. i can understand the details of that, but the cams for an evo or any 4cyl is just like another world to me.

as far as 1/4 mile is concerned...my ls1 ran 12.40/114 with a 1.9 on stock tq converter, stock suspension, street tune and ****ty drag radials so i am obviously looking to go faster with the evo. im not sure how realistic it is, but i'd love to see an 11.99 or better without pushing the stock internals too far.

one last note- i REFUSE to run meth, i dont like the fact that failsafes can fail and i dont have the accessibility to e85
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Originally Posted by hazdaddy View Post
i've heard good things about crower cams.... but i'd appreciate some info from people who have a couple different combos (preferably similar to the rest of my setup)
Crower cams are a dissapointment...the ams test the kelfords were thier number one pick. with the crower's in this test they barely made more power over the stock cams
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Originally Posted by joe.williamson View Post
Crower cams are a dissapointment...the ams test the kelfords were thier number one pick. with the crower's in this test they barely made more power over the stock cams
thats good to know...if they made almost the same power as stock cams, i'd probably lose power if i put them in
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Originally Posted by hazdaddy View Post
who has an hks twin disc? i dont
The guy that started the freaking post..
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Old Feb 10, 2010, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by gsr0801 View Post
The guy that started the freaking post..
my bad, seeing how that was on the 1st page and you posted about a twin disC on the 6th, i assumed you were talking about my car since thats what most of the 5th page was.

The quote button would have been very useful to avoid that misunderstanding
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Old Feb 10, 2010, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hazdaddy View Post
thats good to know...if they made almost the same power as stock cams, i'd probably lose power if i put them in

yeah you prolly would what 272's are you running now...i got the kelfords and they are sick!
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Originally Posted by joe.williamson View Post
yeah you prolly would what 272's are you running now...i got the kelfords and they are sick!
i have hks 272's right now
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I'm going from fpred to fpblack in a couple weeks, currently 490whp with red and meth. What whp will I see after the black and more boost? Can't wait.
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550+ With good tune
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